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[–] soupyc@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Napo'opo'o isn't 'Na poo poo'

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That makes perfect sense

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Americans understand glottal stops challenge (improbable 💪)

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

We use them all the time but we're generally unaware of it. Like in "uh-oh".

That's leaving aside that Hawaiians ARE Americans, thanks to the Dole fruit company.

[–] ZeroTHM@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

"HOE-NOW-NOW NAH-POO-POO"

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Right.

Leaving out the ʻokina and kahakō changes the sound significantly. The ʻokina represents a glottal stop, the sound in the middle of "uh-oh". In Hawaiian, it's a letter of the alphabet. The kahakō (macron, the horizontal line over a vowel) means the vowel is long - as in pronounced for a beat longer. What we call long and short vowels in English should be considered different vowels because they are different sounds.

Hōnaunau-Nāpōʻopʻo

Is

Hohh nah oo nah oo Nahh pohh ohp oh

It's hard to transcribe, I hope that's of interest to someone. He haumana a ʻōlelo Hawaiʻi au. I'm still early in my learning.