Signal had something good when it could simply be your default messaging app on your phone, and it'd transparently send either encrypted messages, or plain-text SMS. Now that they've removed SMS, they've just turned into a worse Whatsapp (because nobody is on it). Network effects are important in messaging apps.

[–] mossy_capivara@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trust me I know, having my whole family try it out and then have them pull that later was a punch in the face

[–] sarsaparilyptus@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was that the punch in the face, or was it all the morons intentionally misinterpreting this argument and saying "but why would u want to send nonsecure messages are you aware SMS isn't secure it's like so insecure to send SMS bro it's not secure it's like literally a security risk bro SMS isn't secure at all and also are you aware SMS security is poor"

[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Not doubting that pushy idiots are going to pushy idiot, but I think you've strawmanned the actual reason hard enough.

Most people who want it back don't need, want, or understand why secure messaging exists.

Here's the simple facts:

SMS is not secure, or private.
Signal is for secure, private comms.

As mildly inconvenient as it is, Signal explained their reasoning in great detail, and I happen to agree: There should never have been an insecure option on a secure messaging app.

[–] Steve@compuverse.uk 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This always struck me as strange thinking.
Are most people really unable to understand and use different messengers with different contexts and groups?

Honestly I use a few myself. My job has Tiger Connect. I use Signal with all my family and friends. Then I use SMS for some companies automatic notifications. It's pretty simple and easy.

[–] ebc@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, yes. But when all your friends are already on Facebook Messenger, good luck getting them to install Signal only to talk with you. Network effects are important; a messaging app has no use when you have nobody to message on the app. Supporting SMS was taking advantage of its network effect, and I don't think their network was big enough to be self-sustaining for most users (it wasn't in my case, my only contact in there is my wife).

[–] gizzle@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

If a friend doesn't care about you enough to perform the 1 minute task of installing signal they're not worth your time