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I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, no it's not. Maybe with a standalone iso. But an out of box machine from the majore OEMs like Dell and HP, it's not. Even if you never connect it to the Internet it can be nearly impossible to get around.

[–] Bobert@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just not true to my personal experience with over 200 devices from Dell and Lenovo. Especially concerning the not connecting to internet. That is literally the only step you need to take if the OEM install wants to force a MS account to be able to install local accounts. "Nearly impossible" is absolute hyperbole and you know it.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

I guess we've just had opposite luck. Cuz I work for an MSP, and deal with clients that insist on buying their own computers. 90% of the time it will be win11 home, and I'll have to hope that the version of windows doesn't include the various patches that close out the "I don't have internet" option like win10 has. And lately even the F10 option to invoke the terminal is patched out. I've ended having to change secure boot options, then registry edits, then I can do the F10 option.