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That's not going to change the fact of the next election candidates. We need to work with the system. We need to mobilize grassroot movements and affect local politics. Look at the wins in Michigan or Minnesota (forgot which) that had a full Democratic government. We got so much ground there. We gain a lot more when we have Dems instead of Repubs at the head of power.
It's a shame, but it's not changing my message. The party needs to shape up and start sending war criminals to the Hague instead of the White House.
The system is designed to disenfranchise us, especially if we work with it. I'm glad to leave room for a plurality of tactics, though. You go ahead and push the envelope from the inside and I'll pull from out here.
Yup, strikes need organization too. Especially when the bargaining unit consists of about 165 million democrats and nonvoters. If you run into anybody else that wants the party to reform and is willing to not-vote about it, send them my way.
But we could be getting a lot more, especially if the Democrats started doing wildly popular things like forgiving student debt, blocking arms deals to war zones, and putting republicans on record voting against bills for postal banking, a public healthcare option, municipal broadband, etc.
Perfection is the enemy of progress.
Yes, we need better candidates. Yes, we need these policies passed to change the material conditions of American. But the Dems will NEVER be perfect. Progressive will NEVER be perfect. Socialists, communist party, etc. will NEVER be perfect. We need to work with what we have.
Right now we are faced with the decision of the country becoming fascist, making our goals unattainable, or working with a democratic system and doing our best moving socialist ideals. I rather do the work in that environment than seeing my partner and loved ones die because they are trans. I rather not be put in a concentration camp.
Nothing will happen if America becomes fascist. We are done. Our movement will be quelled. Mass death. This isn't an exaggeration. Look at Project 2025 and you can extrapolate from there.
Exactly, hence my insistence that the party is not already perfect no matter how much of its management thinks their shit doesnt stink.
If theres only going to be one game in town then it behooves us to use every tool at our disposal to push them in the right direction.
America is already fascist, the only question that remains is bad it has to get before we'll throw out the government and start over.