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So I've always noticed when I'm as down as I can get, I find comfort is music that most people find super depressing all the way to unbearably depressing. Like slit-your-wrists depressing. Songs you'd expect to find someone hanging from a noose in their home on repeat to. These kinds of songs bring comfort because they make me feel like, ok, I'm not so alone with this shit.

And for context, really happy songs just seem the saddest, most devastating songs that there are, because you don't have that, you don't have that happiness, love, support, that glimmer of light everyone's so happy about you know?

So gimme the saddest songs you can think of. I'm wearing Joy Division out.

Some other music/songs I've been listening to: Ren - Hi Ren (and some others of his), Elliott Smith, Micah P. Hinson, Portishead, Swans, Lykke Li - I Never Learn, Interpol, Chelsea Wolfe, Elton John - Rocketman, Matt Elliott, Savages - Adore

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[โ€“] Candelestine@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails' song Hurt, as performed by Johnny Cash:

https://youtu.be/8AHCfZTRGiI

I think in order to get to the true depths of musical pain, you often need two people. One who has the creativity and expression to write it well, and another whose soul has been crushed by their own guilt enough to perform it well. These two people cannot be the same, because the soul crushing process kills your creativity at its most extreme levels. But that extreme level is where you can perform mournful songs the best.

So, it takes two people.

[โ€“] glimse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

another whose soul has been crushed by their own guilt enough to perform it well

Sorry but did you just...not listen to the original? There is such a wide range of emotions and Trent Reznor CRUSHES it. There is so much depth compared to Johnny Cash's warbling old man voice. You hear a man hitting his breaking point as he gets louder and angrier at himself. Meanwhile there's no evolution in the cover, he sounds the same start to finish.

I just don't understand the massive praise of the cover. If it wasn't Johnny Cash singing it, it would have never hit the radio. I don't care if people like it but you're massively downplaying the amazing performance of the original

[โ€“] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, Reznor's rendition struck me as oddly theatrical. That's probably just me though, different people can hear different things in the same piece of music.

[โ€“] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear heroin addiction and depression in the original and boredom in the cover. Not to mention the self-aggrandizing music video...I don't hear pain when he's singing someone else's story over clips of his successful, fulfilling life

[โ€“] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Reznor heard his pain. Perhaps the fact that his successful, fulfilling life still ultimately failed him, is what he's trying to say. Also, he was an addict too.

Sometimes, yes, I absolutely agree, maybe even often. Not all songwriters, as great of a performer they might be for most of their songs, are the best performers for so many of their own songs. Good examples are Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen (Cohen after the first 3-4 albums wasn't IMO the best performer of his own songs) and Jeff Buckley's version; lots of Isaac Hayes' versions of other peoples' songs, most of all By the Time I Get to Phoenix

but the best example I can think of is A Song for You, written by Leon Russell, but Donny Hathaway takes it to a completely different fucking universe and makes it his own. That song is heartbreaking performed by him, Jesus.