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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

That's ~~proprietary~~ non-libre so not an option unfortunately

Edit: Fixed technicality

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It's open source, you just can't fork it.

Edit, I'll rephrase that. You can fork it and do whatever, even remove the "please donate" thing, but if you distribute any spy/malware versions they have legal avenues to force it to get taken down.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not open source, it's source-available

[–] planish@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sounds more like open source but not free software?

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As confusing as it is, if you're to follow the generally accepted definition from the Open Source Initiative, "open-source" doesn't just mean open source code, but also openness to modification and redistribution - what you called free, others call libre, etc. Just having an open source code, they call "source available".

It annoys me to no end, but it is what it is...

[–] planish@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

But if "You can fork it and do whatever, even remove the “please donate” thing, but if you distribute any spy/malware versions they have legal avenues to force it to get taken down", that sounds like open source to me? You can indeed modify and redistribute it in almost any way you would like!

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not a free software license though. Libre software must give you the right to run, study, modify and distribute the code. It doesn't do that to my knowledge.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Correct it does not technically fit into FOSS, however the source code is still open for review, allowing you to run, study and modify the code. The only restriction is distribution.

If your personal model is to strictly use FOSS, then this program is not for you.

However, if your model is more about the ability to make personal modification, or to study the code to verify it is not malicious or spying, then this program allows for that.

It is also worth noting this program isn't technically free (money), but there are no checks if you actually paid. It's up to you and your own morals to pay or not. For me, I consider it no different than an obnoxious "buy me a coffee" button - if it bugs you that much, go delete it from the code you run.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

Exactly, I don't want software that doesn't respect the 4 freedoms. It makes forks impossible and still gives the developer unjustified power.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

TBH it's not proprietary either. I'm OK with such licensing because it helps the developers fuck the clowns over who try to take their code without even a thanks. The source is available to audit if you'd like. That's what I really care about.