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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 27 points 11 months ago (5 children)

America doesn't really have a functional system for this yet either. It's a lot easier to just tap your phone on a brick and be done with it, but currently the tap method is pretty hit or miss. And bank transfers are atrocious - why do we pay venmo to do something that Korean banks just straight up do for everyone? In Korea you can just give someone your deposit number and with a couple buttons you send money easily/instantly.

[–] olicvb@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You don't even have to go that far, Canada has interac e-transfers where you can send money by email. Directly accessible through the standard bank app/site. I haven't handled cash in years

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Ew email does not sound like the place for cash transactions.

But yeah, most countries these days have instant bank transfers. The US is ancient when it comes to payments, "cashing your payslip" isn't a thing in much of the rest of the world.

[–] scottyjoe9@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

In Australia you can send money via phone number or email (called payid) but it's not sent in an email or SMS, it's just that your number/email address is used as a unique identifier linked to your bank account. When someone pays you via either of those, the money gets directed into that account instantly.

And yes, being paid directly into your bank account is standard here and I would say really the only option for most jobs. I'm 35 and have never had a job that doesn't pay you direct to your account.

[–] eating3645@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

They likely mean their bank uses email as an identifier. So the bank asks you the registered email you'd like to send money to. Not that you're emailing cash or something like that.

Similar to zelle, a third party that fills the gap.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The email is like an id for your account. You can use your phone number. AFAIK if you link it email or phone number to your bank and someone sends you money to that email or phone number it doesn't actually text or email you. The money will be directly deposited into your account.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In Australia you can send money bank to bank for free, with practically instant transfers (though large amounts and first transfers from you to someone get a 24hr hold)

And you can use the person's phone number as the transaction target (instead of bank branch number and account number)

It's pretty nice, good for small business too, especially trades

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Re: Australia: be aware that all normal bank to bank transfers are still min 1 working day transfer. Its FAST and Osko which bypass that with their own new network (up to $1000).

Not every bank is with Osko or FAST, and some are with one and not the other. Though I think FAST is fading away with Osko being dominant.

Re: phone number: or email address! It's great, especially if you have your own domain name. You can make different PayID email addresses for each account you have if you want.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Me and my mate have sent money to each other for kitty balancing on fishing trips, this year (about an hour ago) he sent me his share (high hundreds) and it was instant

We don't use phone number since we have had each other's bank details for ages

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Osko/FAST: are fast BSB/Acct# transfers.

PayID: is an easy way to reference a BSB/Acct#.

Together, they are fast and easy, but they are not the same thing and are not required for one to be used to use the other.

Also, "high hundreds" is less than $1000 :-P

[–] lemmy___user@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Theoretically the situation with bank to bank money transfers should be improving - the replacement for the ancient, slow ACH system went live a few months ago. Of course it will likely take several centuries for a critical mass of banks to support it, but there has been some progress at least.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Same in Brazil, i can send i think 10k to anyone in my contact using PIX that was created by the goverment and is opensource, i can pay with it too, there is other way too, but PIX is the easier, just need a internet connection

you can send using ramdom nunber, cellphone number, CPF, qr code, email, just need to configure the key that you want in you bank or bank app, and it just work without fees

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I don't know much about Korea. Do they have laws limiting how much you can be tracked and marketed to?

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

My bank still sends me a text message and has no other means of 2FA options.

You'd think they'd be way more up to date on this "digital security practices" stuff. :|