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My recommendation is learn to love lentils. Replace the beef in your spag bol with them. So good and so much cheaper. Also beans, there are so many good things you can do with them.
Lentils r amazing, although they severely lack protein. Plus, they alone do not have all 9 required amino acids. To get them, u need to consume lentils AND beans.
The daily RDA for me is around 56 grams of protein. If I had to meet this demand via lentils and beans alone, then I would need to consume around 460 grams of lentils and beans DAILY. Yeah... Imagine the AMOUNT of gases after that lol.
HOWEVER, there still is a solution that I found. Say hello to "TVP", ie., "Texturised Vegetable Protein". This basically concentrates all this protein, while having all 9 required amino acids. To meet my RDA, I would need to consume just 120 grams.
I still do have lentils and beans sometimes. However, TVP is still always present in some form.
@UraniumBlazer @Nonameuser678 56 grams of protein from all sources. There is protein in almost everything you eat, and it combines to reach that goal. You don't have to get all 56 grams from just lentils and beans
Also, it's rice or some other grain you want to pair with lentils to achieve a complete protein, not beans -- beans are legumes, and most legumes have a similar amino acid profile
Well wheat and rice have like under 4 gm of protein per 100gm. Vegetables are even less than this. I would have to eat kilos and kilos of stuff to meet my RDA this way.
Oh yeah, I looked this up. I don't see the beans lentil thing that I mentioned anywhere. So ig u'r right. I think I saw this in some YouTube video.
That is why I promote replacing beef, the biggest problem with anything else. It isn't realistic to expect massive amounts of people to make such drastic changes to their diet in any reasonable time frame. We CAN drastically reduce GHG, especially methane from beef production by replacing it with a less harmful alternatives, and from there gradually scale back meat production as a whole.
Another issue is production. There needs to be time for food producers to change what they are producing. It takes time for plants to grow and animals to mature. If we all just ate rice and beans starting tomorrow, does the world even have enough to feed everyone? We can't just eat a bunch of corn like cows do. We would have to get corn farmers to grow something else.
Considering the nutrition and production hurdles, I promote just reducing beef consumption right now. If that ever succeeds, I'll move on to reducing meat consumption in general, giving time for viable alternatives to mature.
Suuuure... However, it's not that difficult to replace all meat entirely, rapidly (around a decade). This is where TVP tech comes in, which I stated in my original comment.
TVP is tremendously cheap, contains as much protein as meat and is even easier to prepare than meat. It's like vegan vibranium. Check it out.
Hows it taste?
Absolutely amazing when made properly. U need to soak it for like 15 min before cooking, then squeeze the brownish water out. Refill and squeeze immediately (u don't need to soak for 15 min again ofc). The goal is to remove the brownish water (which contains the cardboard like flavor). Also, if you're boiling it, remember to add salt to preserve the texture.
Yes. If every human stopped eating beef and meat from sheep, we would need 50% of the agricultural area compared to now. And if everyone became vegan, we would only need about 25-30% of the area. There will never be a food shortage because of plants replacing meat in food.
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Yes, that is true. That isn't what I am talking about.
I am talking about what is currently being produced right now. My gut tells me if everyone literally went vegan tomorrow, there wouldn't be enough food to go around.
Reducing meat consumption does need to happen, but it will realistically take at least a few years, if not a decade to transition food supply chains. At minimum, it will take at least a few growing seasons to transition from animal feed crops to food crops.
Yes, it will definitely take years for such a transition. But since most people will not change their eating behaviour quickly and radically anyway, that will not be a problem I think.
Sure, 100 grams of raw spinach has only 2.9g of protein. But spinach cooks down a lot.
And remember, if you're trying to get to 50g of protein a day, you add everything together. Was your breakfast a slice of toast and some berries? You might have eaten like 5g of protein there, and you haven't even had an egg or anything that's a real protein. If you add an egg, that's 12g of protein at breakfast.
Ate a pb&j for lunch? That might have been another 10g of protein in that sandwich. Add a small side salad with some chickpeas and you're easily at 15g of protein.
Then for dinner, a serving of lentils is like 13g. Suppose you ate that with some raita and spinach, and you're easily at like 20g of protein at that meal already.
So that's like 47g of protein. Eat a handful of nuts or two oranges and you're at 50g of protein.
And imagine how many carbs you're getting with your lentils. If you're on a diet, getting your protein from lentils is pretty much impossible. Also, plant proteins are not as digestible as animal protein, so you need to add another 10-15% to your lentils to make up for that.
TVP is awesome. I pad out my meat with it. It's a great way to cut down on your meat and really doesn't distract from the meatiness at all. Beans and lentils have a texture, flavour, and mouth feel that is quite overwhelming and is really inescapable if you're having any reasonable quantity of them.
This, I basically never buy any 'vegan' products. I just sub mince with red and yellow lentils and barley, it's great and cheap. Add lots of veggies and you've got a delicious meal.
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