Luigi (with Linux Mint logo) and Mario (Ubuntu logo) come in
Mother: It's-a the Ubuntu Bros!
Linux Mint (Luigi): Mama why-a you never remember my name?
Mother: I'm-a sorry Green Ubuntu
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Why does anybody use ubuntu etc when they could use debian?
It comes with like 6 desktops right in the installation. And there are another 20 more available too.
And ubuntu etc is just debian with a fancy desktop, right?
And debian is fast, lightweight and stable as heck. Don't they use it on the spaceshuttle?
Don't you just love how with phones you don't really have one?
Google is breaking their backs locking down Android tighter than a nun's cooch, and generally enshitifyijg every garbage product they offer. Where's my third fucking option?
Pinephone?
Probably try a raspberry pi one. Custom built and with a custom OS. Not sure if there is a version of Lineage or Graphene that works on it, but that's an option.
because how tf am i gonna install internet drivers without internet.
Same way you install the OS without internet, put it on a thumb drive.
Well sure, but if i have to figure out what to get, where to get it, how to install a driver from a tar.gz file, maybe i just install ubuntu instead.
I opted for fedora instead, until it died on an nvidia update (as every distro inevitably seems to do with me) and fucked off back to windows. Linux desktop has not treated me well so far in any case.
It will be the non-free drivers package. If installing Debian, also grab the non-free drivers, you'll need it for wifi
yes, but i cant do that without internet is the point
No need, if Ubuntu works out of the box then Debian also works most of the time. I've never had to install drivers for ethernet or wifi. The installer is a bit less graphical, but it will connect in a few "clicks", even wifi works for the installer.
My guess is: Too outdated packages. Debian experimental fixes this, but it's not noob friendly to enable those. And flatpack is too recent.
This was the one for me, was running Debian a few years ago, I was really happy with how everything worked.
But at work I noticed a lot of tools I needed where pretty old. Like an old version of maven or an old version of Firefox or npm.
You can probably work around it, but I just went back to Mint again.
It's gotten better uith flatpak, or if you can handle it: distrobox.
Debian is good, but people working on polishing a thing from 9 to 5, 5 days a week can do a lot.
ubuntu has firewall protection already to go. I heard if you used debian you have to install UFW or other things on your own
For what you need a firewall on a desktop-client?
For everything? You still shouldnt be running all ports open around. As it would ease the work of hackers getting backdoor access.
So just close the ports (or more precise: Do not open them, as "closed" is the default for most software on Linux).
Yup, and if some bad software wants to create malicious webserver they can not do it as all the ports that are open are used in a legit way. And thus can not really communicate either one or the other way.
A webserver listens on port 80 or 443. Neither port can be claimed by a normal user (no port below 1024 can). But yes if you manage more than your own user on a desktop AND these other users are not allowed to start programs on their own THEN a firewall can be helpful; but this is not a normal situation for a desktop-client, isn’t it?
ok that's one thing about ubuntu that I didn't know.
Only moonmen use debian
I'm pretty sure they need real time systems on a spaceshuttle
I think the real time requirement can be relaxed for self contained experiment packages. And given that the shuttle ran a healthy number of student experiments, it's pretty likely that X system has appeared.
I believe crew laptops for email and stuff are also running non real-time systems.
For the main systems, sure. But non critical systems can pretty much run nearly anything.