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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why people in the west care about this territorial conflict.

It is clearly a strategic conflict for USA and allies to keep China at distance and reduce their ability to move further.

But for people to keep talking about it like it is a ( good vs evil ) feels like propganda by USA military or something.

If we imagine a world where china without Nuclear weapons, so Nato can stop them anytime, I dont think the USA media will care about them.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because a global power engaging in aggressive colonialism is bad - even when it's not the US doing it.

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think the USSR, DPRK, and so on are any different? What definition of communism are you using, my dude?

I'd we'd like to talk about genocides in countries that don't say they're communist? There's the Holocaust, ^Armenia, ^^Rwanda, ^^^Bangladesh, ^^^^Romania, ^^^^^Greece, ^^^^^^Assyria, ^^^^^^^Serbia/Croatia, ^^^^^^^^Chechnya

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh so you think im a tankie huh? i meant 56 DEMOCRATIC China's (not including Tibet, east Turkestan, inner Mongolia, and a Manchu state)

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not a term I'm familiar with.

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

two defenitions from the urban dictionary

  1. A form of government where the leader is chosen by popularity rather than ability to run a country. "I've said it before and I'll say it again; democracy simply doesn't work." -Kent Brockman by IKEM (?) on urban dictionary

  2. Taken from the Greek 'demos' and 'kratos' ('people' and 'power' respectively), it refers to the system of government in which the entire population effectively rules through a concentrated body which relies on the population's opinion as a source for its policies. The French Revolution was sparked by ideals of liberty and democracy for all. by ryanM on urban dictionary

that's what democracy is

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm aware of the definition of democracy. I wasn't aware of the meaning of 56 Chinas - we know fascist types love numerically coded language - 14 words, 18/50, 88, 18, and so on.

Looking at the meaning, 56 Chinas sounds concerningly close to ethno-state advocacy, but I figure that's not the intent.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Why shouldn't we care about the land and people they said they'd take by force if need be? Really?

[–] sirmanleypower@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pretty clear that having a strategic partner in that part of the world is a net positive for western counties. Also Taiwan supplies a huge fraction of our computer chips.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

That they managed to utterly dominate the chipmaking market and use that as a leverage to make allies was a real master move. The pandemic and the whole supply chain troubles giving a wake up call that "all eggs in one basket" is bad sure got them worried, tho.

[–] min_fapper@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 1 year ago

Because Taiwan makes most of the computer chips we use, and the US definitely has a vested interest in China not obtaining that knowledge.