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Does this exist?? Messaging platform with a panic button from any member. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Basically I am looking for a messaging platform like signal or? but with anonymous signup, perfect forward secrecy, capable of video chat, sending photos the usual uses in today's life. But with a panic button. So that any party member could use said button to wipe all other members devices of any data instantly inside the messaging app. So if one member gets compromised, or lost their device, stolen device ect, any other member could wipe all chats, call log, and any other data strictly inside the messaging client instantly for everyone involved. Disolving the group like it never existed rendering the data unrecoverable. Amazons Wickr used to have most of these features but it is being discontinued December 2023 and who trusts amazon with their data. Does something like this exist? Sorry if I'm not explaining it well I'll do my best to clarify and update this post. I am not trying to delete the whole device. Just the data inside the messaging app. If that does not exist. What about a separate app that could delete the entire messaging platform from the device when triggered. Assume all necessary requirements are met and this is for daily use. Between a group of trusted parties.

Updated wording to clarify the objective as replies where getting misunderstood.

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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Doesn't signal do that? I thought they had a wipe as messages are sent like snapchat where if you leave and go back, they're gone

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They have ephemeral messaging where one can set a timer to delete a message when it is read or from the time it was sent. But that isn't always so easy to gauge with life. Often times a chat log is needed when people don't check it often or right away. So the group must set a long timer like 24h ect ect. It's customizable. But if a group members device gets lost or stolen ect. It is of no use. Signal by default stores all call logs in the app. Even if the ephemeral timer is short. Call logs require manual deletion and the group is still formed showing who was in that group but the chat will be empty. Edit was wording.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Often times a chat log is needed when people don't check it often or right away.

I think the timer on each device starts from when the person who has the devices sees the message.

So if you send the message and the timer is 5 minutes, the message on your account (on all of your devices) will be deleted in 5 minutes from now, while the recipient will first see the message (maybe in an hour) and then after 5 minutes it will be deleted from their devices too.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago

100% this. Ephemeral messaging is a data hygiene tool, it is not a secrecy tool

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Note with Snapchat that, it just gets hidden

You can find comments from people where old messages and images start popping back up because of bugs in the app. Snapchat is near the bottom of the barrel when it comes to privacy and security, despite the premise

[–] Funkymatt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that's per conversation so you have to remember to set it.

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It is per conversation but ephemeral messaging is not the same as a panic button. It does not serve the same function or purpose. Which doesn't answer my question.