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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Robbery does require violence though.

[–] charliespider@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does it? Quietly hand a note to the bank teller that says: "this is a robbery, put $10000 in a bag", then calmly walk out when they give it to you.

One could argue that there was violence implied, but that doesn't mean that violence was used.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah the threat of violence makes it robbery (eg if you have a banana in your pocket but say you have a gun), just like terrorism can be either violence or the threat of violence to achieve a political goal. However, a bank heist would not be robbery, just like burglary or pickpocketing is not robbery.

[–] hersh 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This probably depends on jurisdiction. I also suspect "violence" in a legal sense is different from the everyday sense. I'm not a lawyer.

From the US FBI's web site:

The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines robbery as the taking or attempting to take anything of value from the care, custody, or control of a person or persons by force or threat of force or violence and/or by putting the victim in fear.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Yes I did gloss over the "threat of violence" part and just included it in general as "violence".