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I accidentally got banned from a Lemmy community and I’m truly trying to be as reasonable as possible so this is some touchy stuff because it’s horrible & true — especially if one on your relative perished in the Oct 6 surprise attack at the concert. Please don’t ban me but some of us have relatives that were killed in the attack and so… it’s horrible and true.
It's not self defense. Your relatives were sacrificed by the Israeli government to create a pretext to commit genocide against Palestinians.
Israel bombed hostages, hospitals, refugee camps, and buses full of children, If What Hamas did was terrorism then what Israel's doing is also terrorism.
There really is no way to bomb hospitals and then blame the hospital for being a human shield when it was your bomb that murdered those children.
In a just world there will be a reckoning for the government of Israel, and it involves sending a great deal of them to the Hague where they will hang until death.
So when Hamas guns down Israeli civilians that are not next to military targets it's justified and actually the fault of the jews, and when Israel strikes Hamas military targets that are deliberately placed next to their own civilians it's never justified and the jews hould hang?
Very cool.
What do you realistically expect armies to do when their opponents place all their military assets next to civilian targets? Just give up and kill themselves?
Those are the only two options I guess, indiscriminately murder civilians and blow up hospitals or suicide.
That's obviously the only option out there.
You're the only person saying " the Jews should hang" I'm saying people who commit war crimes should go to the place where the world has decided to try war criminals and then they should punish them like we have punished war criminals in the past.
We hung Nazis we should hang Netanyahu, they're the same fucking thing.
The fact that he's saying "the jews" and not "Jewish people" at all is a huge red flag. Huge racist tone.
Feel free to share your operational plan for how the Israelis should proceed, I'm sure it will be very realistic and grounded in military reality.
So you're obviously also saying that Hamas should be hung from the neck until dead.
Attacking a hospital containing active enemy combatants is not a war crime. Garrisoning troops in a hospital is a war crime. Not making necessary precautions to move civilians away from the combat area is also a war crime.
Deliberately harming civilians is a war crime. Harming civilians by accident or as a byproduct of necessary military action is not a war crime.
Lol are you fucking stupid? Necessary to murder civilians? You hamas supporting psychopath.
I feel like you either don't understand what I wrote or deliberately misunderstood it.
Feel free to ask if you need help understanding what I wrote.
Nah, I fully understood that you think civilians in a hospital going bombed is acceptable collateral damage. And I think you're scum for that.
That's great. What do you think the Israelis should do?
Well I'm not a military strategist, I'm just a dude that knows wrong when I see wrong. Do I have to have good solutions for climate change and homelessness and drug addiction and wealth inequality and world hunger in order to comment on those, too?
No, but you should either have a more realistic stance than "if one single bad thing happens as a result of it then I don't think we should do it." or stop providing your opinion on the topic.
Whoa whoa whoa. That's some hell of a leap in logic. No to your entire comment.
So how do you deal with opponents deliberately putting their military infrastructure next to civilian targets?
You're refusing to separate a genocidal israeli government from the race of Jewish people. You are arguing in bad faith and are yourself a piece of shit. Good day.
Your performative outrage is pretty funny.
In another comment from you I'm a Hamas supporter.
Funnily enough, all of this is in response to someone saying that the Israeli government sacrificed someone's family after they were murdered, which you apparently don't have any problem with.
Nah, I have a problem with both sides. That's the only acceptable position. Hamas is a terrorist organization that uses civilians as Shields, and Isreal is a genocidal regime bent on literally wiping Palestinians off the face of the earth. Both sides suck. Why are we fighting over which turd is bigger when we need to clean it all up?
The most important thing is that you can attack everybody and feel superior to them all.
I'm not fighting for either side, I'm just disagreeing with the assertion that the concert goers who were murdered by Hamas were "sacrificed by Israel".
Kinda hard to not feel superior to terrorists and genocidal governments though.
I've been banned from some random communities for pointing out that people are fully supporting Hamas, or just being brutally Antisemitic. This vileness is everywhere you look right now.
You weren't accidentally banned. Just saying.
Hope you and your family are holding up okay. This is a shit time.
Yeah I'm sure you got banned for that and not your constant islamophobic, anti-Arab racist shit posting. Poor little victim
It's Islamophobic to point out Hamas is a bunch of barbaric terrorists? Hardly. If you support them, I'm going to point out that you're also a pos.