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Been wondering about jumping ship to Linux after I got some hands on experience through the Steam Deck, but I hear that they don't have the same wide compatibility with various Hardware, plus there are a lot of programs you can't get.
If I want Clip Studio Paint, be able to play games with anti cheat AND be able to stream comfortably with OBS and the XLR microphones I have... Can I reasonably expect to be able to do all these things without a hitch?
Have been trying Linux Mint on a spare laptop as a complete N00b. Can't get a huion screen tablet to work, nor an older xp non-screen one. Only option I've found for software is Krita (which isn't bad, actually), but no CSP.
Couldn't get a controller to work properly either without having to install some stuff via command line / terminal, which I wasn't comfortable doing (I commented about having to do this on another post elsewhere and some guy was like super aggressive about how I didn't need to, and was lying apparently... 🤷 )
Other than that, it's a been a pretty smooth experience. That's not sarcasm, its genuinely been interesting experience poking about and giving it a go. May just not be ready for my use case yet.
That's honestly comforting! Thank you for your feedback. I might consider it more. How difficult is setting up a dual boot or something?
I actually found the whole bootloader and how to dual boot thing a bit non-intuitive and generally unclear as to what I should do. But maybe that's just me. In the end, as it was a spare laptop, I just went full Linux Mint, reasoning that I can always reinstall Windows later....
Thank you! I appreciate the honesty a TON
@closetfurry @kde Please be slightly more specific regarding "anti-cheat". Do you play competitive shooter games? If yes, then you're probably out of luck for those unfortunately :(
Correct there. Not super competitive as a person, so I play casually for fun
Hardware support is pretty damn good now, but may require some research beforehand to ensure you get a system with no driver gotchas. Honestly, I have more trouble with driver setup on Windows than on Linux these days. That said, I won't buy a computer that comes with any incompatibilities, so your experience may vary.
Gaming is easy on Linux now (assuming your system is set up properly) thanks to Steam's Linux compatibility layer, which is built with WINE. They also have it on the Steam Deck, so you've actually probably used it already, you just didn't know.
The only sticking point is Clip Studio Paint. Apparently it can be set up using WINE, but it's not going to be as good as a native experience. Or at least, that would be my guess.
Maybe OP should try Krita. From what I read on the CSP site, Krita has everything CSP has and then some: comic module, manga module, animations module, hundreds of brushes and effects,... the works. It also works fine with all the main art hardware. XP Pen even sponsors on of the contributors and their tablets work flawlessly out of the box.
Eidt: Krita also works in Windows so OP can try it before making up their mind.
I've tried Krita, and liked it, but I prefer the workflow of CSP and don't want to lose that ;_;
(and Android, which is what I tried it on. Was pretty good)
I actually love the steam deck, but there are some favs that I can't play due to anti cheat, plus I like playing a lot of older titles on GoG. Do those work just as well?
Depends on the title and the nature of the anti-cheat code. If it basically acts as a system-level rootkit, then you may be out of luck.
I'd check the big community-driven games database that keeps track of compatible games here: https://www.protondb.com/
In some cases, minor tweaks and settings changes will make games work fine, even if they're not officially supported.
As for GoG games, there's Lutris and Heroic Games Launcher, both of which can use Steam's compatibility layer for running Windows-only GoG games. Again, there may be tweaks involved and your mileage may vary, but the communities for both are extremely helpful.
You generally need to get software and hardware that is compatible with your operating system and processor architecture. It’s true that the most used platforms will have the best support, but you have that problem with any OS.
And it’s also not like games with anti cheat generally don’t work with Linux. Proton+Steam does support Valve Anti-Cheat, Easy Anti-Cheat and BattlEye. It’s just that developers have to explicitly enable Linux support for EAC and BattlEye.
Since most people don't use Linux, drivers and software aren't usually developed for it. Although, a reasonable company would develop just in case or help you get a solution, it's unusual. Most computers are supported, but there is very specific hardware that may not have support or you'll find bugs.
I'd recommend you to search (and test with an USB in Live mode) about your hardware and ask in communities about this specific topics. There are music communities, movies, math, streaming, etc.
And no, I don't think you'll find anticheat support because most Linux users don't want closed shady software modifying their kernel (but there are solutions being worked on).
This is not very accurate. Despite having a small user base, kernel developers add hundreds of drivers every new version, and the number of end user programs developed by communities (such as KDE and GNOME) and independent teams, has ballooned in recent years.
You're right, I should specify that it's mostly for niche hardware. But even though there are developers trying, sometimes those devices are barely usable or have bugs and/or vulnerabilities.
Sure. So the catalogue of natively supported software is large and growing fast all the time. There some more devices that need specific drivers supplied by the provider, and some are not supported at all. It just means you factor one more thing when buying hardware: Is there support under Linux? And that is not one half as hard as it used to be.
@closetfurry For Clip Studio Paint, Krita might be a very good alternative (and it also work on Windows)
https://krita.org/
For games, anti cheats are indeed still a huge pain :(
I've tried Krita, and liked it, but I prefer the workflow of CSP and don't want to lose that ;_;
Try running it with wine. The pen pressure might not work tho still. Or maybe with a bit of tweaking it might.
I might try that. Thanks