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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (4 children)

better OEM UI

Very subjective.

Unpublished kernel code

Don't use those phones.

Locked bootloaders

Plenty of OEMs allow bootloader unlocking, stop buying Samsung.

Safetynet issues

It's Google Play Integrity checking now, and as someone who has been using LinageOS on unrooted phones for a while, I've never had these issues. Not to say people out there aren't having them, but it's not as bleak as people seem to believe it is.

I have one phone that's rooted, and I have to use magisk to hide it, and that occasionally has issues, but not the non-rooted ones running custom roms.

[–] NRoach44@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Where are these OEMs that allow proper bootloader unlocking on most of their range?

Google, Sony ...? Huawei stopped doing it, Oppo & Samsung doesn't last I checked.

OnePlus has a pretty good track record for this

[–] scrooge101@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago
[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Xiaomi Does albeit with some wait time.

[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

I still remember the good old days when there was no waiting time.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

It's Google Play Integrity checking now, and as someone who has been using LinageOS on unrooted phones for a while, I've never had these issues. Not to say people out there aren't having them, but it's not as bleak as people seem to believe it is

Maybe a week ago they borked the integrity of custom ROMs. GPay/Wallet doesn't work anymore with Magisk shenanigans. Happened to every ROM I checked.

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm talking from a general user perspective who often can't even differentiate between chipsets let alone look for such details.

People used to got to Custom ROMs because OEMs were really doing shit job, that's not the case now given now.

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

People used to got to Custom ROMs because OEMs were really doing shit job, that's not the case now given now.

Yep. I used to use custom (ROMs, kernels, etc) for the extra features and playing with my phone like a shiny new toy. Now I use GrapheneOS because OEMs and Google don't do security and privacy anywhere near as good as GOS. And I can live with the minor inconvenience of apps that use Play Integrity API, though I do encourage the app devs to switch to hardware backed attestation because: "Android's hardware attestation API provides a much stronger form of attestation than the Play Integrity API with the ability to whitelist the keys of alternate operating systems. It also avoids an unnecessary dependency on Google Play services and Google's Play Integrity servers." https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide

[–] sv1sjp@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Now try to use most of Banking applications (even McDonalds app lol) Most of these application require Google Play Integrity. So practically, you are enforced to use Google Play Services or buy a second device to run android with gapps and then power it off (that's what I did)