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As a trans woman who plays recreational football for a womens/nonbinary inclusive club, cisgender women regularly outpace, outmuscle, outjump, and generally outplay me. It is exactly the same in the other contact sport I play.
The divide is not as dramatic as it’s made out to be, and the assumption that every trans player is inherently better due to biology does a disservice to cis female athletes who are more than capable of competing equally. Nobody talks about how the only transfeminine weightlifter at the 2020 Olympics came last.
I'm enjoying the people telling the one trans woman here, that is actually involved in women's sport, that she's wrong.
Ain't that like them... The same people who will go on to never watch a women's match either.
Its fine at the recreational level, eg. pickup basketball or football. However these are athlete careers and women should have a fair opportunity at that. The men's league should be renamed open and allow athletes for all genders, while women's leagues should be kept bio women.
This thread is really showing r/soccer's bad side huh
I'm a cis guy who gets regularly outpaced during races by women. Don't see why there should be a women's category at all, the divide is not as dramatic as it's made out to be
A lot of people forget that the reason women's sports in general are behind is due to money and mysogyny. Women's football wasn't recognised by the FA until 1970 so it made it almost impossible for women to organise and play. They've had to start in 1970 where men started in 1860.
Honestly it's part of why it isn't as popular as it could be but are you honestly saying that they'd be equal in popularity compared to the men if not for this?
Why isn't this the case in other countries then? England has by far the most popular womens football despite this, how come it's not more popular in say Sweden, Germany, Spain etc?
Anecdotes don't work in this context. If we look at the two biological genders, we see a clear distinction in which one displays a higher level of "traditional" athleticism.
It’s cuz you’re just trash
Maybe ur just shit at sport, because the divide is absolutely massive. I played for a completely average mens team, and at 16 we beat our counties female under 18 team so badly we completely flipped our team, putting our cb and keeper up top just to keep it remotely unembarassing