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The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

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[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not being tedious. You specifically said you'd join Hamas. That's what Hamas is. If you want to say something differently, just say different words.

Without Hamas there would literally be a Palestinian state, and it would be a secular state, and I know this because this is the reason Hamas exists.

They seized power and canceled elections forever specifically because Palestinians were going to be their own secular state, and Israel would exist. They find that unacceptable. Just like the entire reason for the October attacks was Israel normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia.

These things are not secrets or opinions man. This is history.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are, meaning by context is a thing. I did not specifically say I'd join hamas, hyperbole is absurd when there's an objective record just above your comment.

Not at all, there's good evidence that Israel was always writing against that namely the Israeli government paying hamas and letting them thrive so long as they took out targets beneficial to right wing Israelis.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

paying hamas and letting them thrive so long as they took out targets beneficial to right wing Israelis

By which you mean "people who want a two state solution and a secular Palestine."

And yes, you do mean that's because that's who they fucking targeted.

You're so against Israel that you're back to rooting for a shitter Palestine.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes because we all know you end a terrorist organization but providing them funds they can then use to buy weapons and fighters? Weird plan bud.

You clearly don't know what I mean bud, and it kinda seems like you're not paying attention.

I'm against both lol.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's a really dumb position to have, frankly.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No it's not, they're both terrible and need to be dismantled and reformed in a less shitty way. Simple as. I think it's idiotic to "take a side" in the war as a multiple century religious holy war. What Israel is doing right now with people like you cheering it on is killing more then ten times as many people in "self defense" and then lying about what they find to justify murdering civilians. That's objectively wrong.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Imagine thinking I'm cheering this war on because I don't have hot takes like "terrorism is cool" and "Israel shouldn't exist"

If this isn't you, you're part of the problem:

“people who want a two state solution and a secular Palestine.”

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

To be fair I don't think either should exist and I never said terrorism is cool, hyperbole is idiotic when it's so easy to prove otherwise.