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    [–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I'm to lazy to do my homework. Can anyone explain what's wrong with Ubuntu?

    [–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Not too deep in that conversation but afaik it's a series of choices that just continuously make Ubuntu less usable.

    from what I "know" it seems to be mostly:

    • the baffling decision to keep riding the dead Snap train instead of the now widespread Flatpak one.
    • some drama around them switching from Gnome 2 -> Own Desktop -> Gnome 3 and related decisions, not sure what the problems there were but apparently a lot of people didn't like it.
    • some stuff about telemetry, not sure how relevant this is currently but I heard some people complain about it.

    Again, not really sure that's it but it's what I recall hearing here and there.

    [–] vox@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    and they're using gnome 40+ now, but gnome 40 is actually great, unlike gnome 3

    [–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    What distro would you suggest? I abandoned windows 10 for Ubuntu but it didn't grew on me. I know Linux Mint is friendlier but I thought giving Ubuntu a try

    [–] neonred@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

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    [–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    Depends on your use case honestly. Do you play a lot of games? If so I would recommend against stable distros like Mint. Without knowing more I'd probably say:

    • Mostly Browsing or Work in Office Editors: Linux Mint or Kubuntu since Updates are stable and generally don't break anything.
    • A lot of gaming: Arch via Archinstall or ArcoLinux (ArcoLinux is imo a bit more confusing while getting the image file, after it is superior to ArchInstall for newbies because the installer is a bit more familiar) since you'll benefit from a shortened update cycle. The drawback here is that occasionally (or often depending on what you install) updates break things.

    Edit: Also a general recommendation: Stick to Windows-like Desktops for the beginning, these are (to my knowledge) XFCE and more prominently KDE Plasma. It will save you the additional task of getting used to your desktop environment while you get familiar with how Linux "works" as your main OS.

    [–] neonred@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Debian sid is just as fresh and a (nearly) rolling release distribution. I game on it with Wine, Cyperpunk, X4, Baldur's Gate and others are no problem.

    [–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 3 points 11 months ago

    Didn't know about that, would go into the same category as Arch then.

    [–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    I played around with Kali(I know I know) and raspberry pi for a bit and I got the hang of it a bit. Think I'll go with Mint on one drive for school and such and on the other drive Arch for gaming. Thank you for your time.

    [–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Think I'll go with Mint on one drive for school and such and on the other drive Arch for gaming

    Nothing exactly wrong with that but I don't think you'll need the extra layer of separation. Most Apps on Mint should be available Arch as well and run generally as Bug free as on Mint (Edit: a "graphical" representation of what level of Bugginess you can expect: Many Bugs > Some Bugs > Few Bugs > Windows 10 (personal experience) > Arch Linux > Almost no Bugs > Linux Mint > No Bugs). Not splitting the OS would save you some hassle (for example after school work is done you can start gaming faster as well as simpler disk partitioning) on the other hand depending on yourself it might offer advantages (can't get as easily distracted from schoolwork with games if you have to reboot the PC for it)

    [–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I know that you apps are available across distributions but I wanted to use a stable distro for school that I trust not to brake and another one where I can experience and customize without worrying to much about breaking it.

    [–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    as I said nothing wrong with it, just wanted to add some info in case the decision was made based on some misunderstanding. If you think that's the best fit for you go for it

    [–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

    I'm not yet sure but I'll try them out. Thank you for taking the time

    [–] neonred@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Ubuntu is a product of Canonical which are a pretty evil corporation and a submarine of Microsoft. What they don't leech off Debian is proprietay and lock-in.

    [–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

    I'll look into it. Thanks for the heads-up

    [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 months ago

    remember, do not feed the trolls... That said, snaps suck vs flatpak or appimage.

    [–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    As a commercial OS, it's fine. LTS releases, great headless experience, and dependency graph that is progressive but not as frozen in time as RedHat.

    As an end-user OS, the dizzying number of ways to get usable apps into the GUI cut deep against advanced users. Especially when advanced use cases smash into incompatibilities and easy-to-make mistakes that break stuff. But if you're willing to rock a lot of defaults and just slap things together from the package manager, it works okay.