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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yyyyyyeahhh genetic modification has been a BIG NO-NO in trek canon since the 1990s eugenics wars, right...?

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've temporally shifted the eugenics wars so they're no longer in the 90s but post those wars? Yeah. Genetic experimentation is still insanely illegal and taboo to all living hell.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So we still have a chance to fulfill the trek time line?

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The big temporal shift took place when TNG’s premiere ‘Encounter at Farpoint’ was written to place WW3 and first contact into the mid-late 21st century.

TOS was very specific in saying that the Eugenics War was a precursor to WW3.

Roddenberry wanted to ensure that the franchise’s optimistic future was always a future possibility for viewers. So he insisted that TNG reset the date of WW3.

At the time TNG appeared, there were die-hard gatekeeping TOS fans that argued that this time shift broke canon and meant TNG was in a different universe despite McCoy’s appearance in the premiere.

SNW just confirms the physics of temporal slippage in the Prime timeline as the consequence of all the various intertemporal incursions over the history of the franchise.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually did not know that they shifted it. Are the eugenics wars still part of the shifted timeline or were they cut when moving ww3 back?

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

TNG and all the 90s shows finessed their way around the date of the Eugenics War.

The writers at the time (e.g., Moore & Braga) would rationalize in response to fan questions that the Eugenics War was going on but we just weren’t aware. Or something. But they assiduously avoided dealing with the issue onscreen despite trying to write around other inconsistencies like Klingon foreheads.

So, it was left to SNW’s Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow to spell it all out, including moving Khan’s birth back by decades. It’s worth putting a priority on seeing that episode just for that clarity.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the insight, guess I'll go and watch SNW now :D

There are allowances for genetic therapies to treat medical conditions, but this probably falls outside of that realm just a bit.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That didn't stop Bashir's parents. If regular parents can make it happen it for their below average child, a Dr Noonian Soong type will be all over it.