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Senior men have higher rates of suicide than average, and firearms were involved in more than three-quarters of those deaths in 2021, according to a CDC report

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[–] grayman@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Get rid of all guns and gun suicides will plummet! It's just obvious! Can't you see that?! The problem is GUNS GUNS GUNS. After all, this is an anti gun article, right?! Wait... Why does the article mention suicide?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The idea of stopping suicide by removing the means is absolutely sick when you think about it.

Removing the means of suicide is the crudest, least helpful method of suicide prevention.

[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

It's also extremely cruel. Like if someone really wants to kill themselves due to ongoing unsolvable pain, they should absolutely have that right. Suicide is a human right.

Sure, of course we should do our best to provide options to solve their pain...even if they feel it is unsolvable, it might not be. It is important we do everything to show them that it might actually be solvable. I'm not denying we need more of those supports for people considering suicide. But like, if they have tried absolutely everything and are in a constant state of pain then only a truly evil person would force them to continue to suffer. It's fundamentally immoral.

Children are able to understand why putting a suffering dog down in the right course of action, but somehow a majority of adults seem unable to draw the same conclusion around people with incurable terminal illnesses that make people suffer immensely (for example ALS).

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Get rid of all guns and gun suicides will plummet!

Shouldn't you guys be somewhere crying out mental health in the replies to yet another mass shooting article?

Sure you can kill yourself other ways, and society isn't great to older men, or men, or women, or infants, or whatever...but guns deliver instant death that is just barely on this side of the line of premeditated.

The rise in suicide rates also coincides with lax gun laws if you have read anything about the subject.

Think about the last time you had a long, lonely night, it was miserable, right? What if you had an instant way of ending it all right that moment at the height of your torment, and that method was within arm's reach?

Guns can easily turn a bad night into a person's last night. Expand outreach for mental health and work on improving society in other ways, sure, but continuing to provide ubiquitous, instant means to kill yourself and others does zero to solve any of society's ills.