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[–] Nighed@sffa.community 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He wasn't intentionally bad though, he just made a (huge) miscalculation about how much the leave campaign were willing to lie.

[–] brewery@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why did he leave then straight away and dissappear from public life? He's completely arrogant and only cares about power. Why didn't he have a plan is it did go wrong? He's grossly incompetent. Any half decent government should prepare plans for even unlikely situations if they are possible and would cause so much damage.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, having a pro remain leader in charge of Brexit would have pissed of the Brexit crowd. Probably would have given a better outcome though.

[–] brewery@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

If he came out and said he will follow the will of the people and appoint a pro brexit person to lead a new dept and also lead negotiations, I think he could've got away with it. At least he could've seen through a transition to a new govt rather than just abandon it everything.

Maybe he shouldn't have pissed off the brexit crowd with those govt paid leaflets and the support he gave. He should've planned something for what would happen if the vote didn't go his way. We could've at least figured out what type of brexit the country wanted as a binary yes - no was not enough.

I see what you mean though, maybe it was just never possible and it was his only option. I just think he caused the most damage to this country ever and somehow is getting away with it with seemingly no consequences. No matter what, he is so linked to this situation in a negative way he should not be in politics anymore, either as a cabinet member or lord

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No matter what he wanted it probably would've gone worse for him to have remained. Can you imagine what the ERG would have attempted had he stayed? They only just about let May get in.

[–] brewery@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then it's fine that he left but he shouldn't be allowed back in surely?

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Why not? Enough time has passed now that the aftermath, or at least the immediate aftermath, has all been handled.

[–] jamrom@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

He was a Eurosceptic masquerading as a pro-EU campaigner. He gambled his power with different referenda (AV in 2011, Scottish independence in 2014, and the UK self-sanction in 2016).

He looks competent, but he's directly and indirectly caused so much harm to this country.

[–] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was intentionally bad. It was party over country, as usual for the Tories. And then he did a runner when he lost. Filthy piece of toerag, he's got a nerve showing his face in government again.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure that calling a referendum to let the voters choose can be considered bad. (The result was though)