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[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They aren't using ads to "get people to pay" they're using ads to pay for people who don't want to pay

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, the ads make a little money. But it's still a problem you create then sell the solution to. It's at least half the reason to do ads.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not really. The alternative is charging for the app in the first place, but if you do that your app fails. You include ads to help pay for development and ongoing expenses.

Offering a subscription to remove them for those that want to is secondary to that. Very few people actually subscribe to anything at all unless they absolutely have to. You'd be surprised to learn how few users actually pay to remove ads--like oftentimes less than one percent

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not the only alternative.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do bless me with your knowledge, then. Donations don't work. You don't want ads. You don't want subscription fees. People hate paying for apps.

There is no other option other than working for free.

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Donations work. The dev clearly has many loyal fans willing to pay. Look at Jerboa/Lemmy's donation pages. It's good money.

Besides this I'm not even saying the dev shouldn't do it. I'm just explaining that I don't like it.

I gladly donate to FOSS software devs because the product never forces me to log in for a feature or get a key or see an ad. The app doesn't get any of the bloat required to do that stuff either. I just don't want to use Sync and it's not because I'm cheap

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's good money.

The Lemmy dev is making around 30k a year. Subtract taxes from that and he's making maybe 25k (at best).

They're very clearly extremely talented software engineers, and you're telling me $12 an hour is "good money"? That's not even above minimum wage in many US states! Do you have any idea how much software engineers make?

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't have to be the only thing you do. Where do you think FOSS software comes from?

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

People working for free, very rarely company sponsorship, or businesses making open source software.