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By MAYA ZANGER-NADIS NOVEMBER 12, 2023 19:09 Updated: NOVEMBER 12, 2023 21:26


Israeli security forces delivered 300 liters of diesel fuel to Shifa Hospital in Gaza early Sunday morning and later received intelligence indicating that Hamas had intercepted the delivery, according to a Sunday night IDF statement.

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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hamas puts their rocket launchers next to schools, so the only way to take out their ability to launch rockets at Israeli civilians also has a high likelihood of damaging the school. Hamas puts terrorist HQs in tunnels under hospitals, weapons caches in apartment buildings, and so on. This is deliberate; the point is to increase Palestinian suffering in order to ensure that Palestinians and Israelis cannot make peace, with the ultimate aim of establishing a new Islamic State in Palestine.

Unlike the PLO, Hamas has never been signatory to the Geneva Conventions. Hamas explicitly repudiates the notion of a civilian/military distinction, both for Israelis and for Palestinians.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that justifies bombing civilians being used as human shields?

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's a really good reason that nations should comply with international law and not do shit like deliberately put military targets in civilian buildings.

There's a really good reason that nations in armed conflict should comply with international law and not conceal military targets as medical facilities.

Why? Because doing those things makes the civilian buildings and medical facilities into legitimate military targets.

A major goal of the international law of war is to reduce civilian suffering. The rules that Hamas is breaking, are rules that exist to reduce civilian suffering -- in this case, the suffering of Palestinian civilians.

But yeah, if your foe is shooting at you from an ambulance, yes you get to take out the ambulance. If your foe is shooting rockets from a school, yes you get to take out the school. Ambulances and schools aren't supposed to be shooting at all.

But again, Hamas doesn't recognize a civilian/military distinction. This makes them a really shitty government.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas is not a nation.

Israel undermined the only government Gaza had and propped up the terrorists instead.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hamas is not a nation.

Hamas is the government of Palestine in Gaza. They have been the government there since 2006. A group can be both the government of an area and a terrorist organization. Sucks, but it happens regularly.


Unless you are just being pedantic and arguing that a 'government of a nation' and a 'nation' are different things. Then sure, I can read a dictionary as well. But, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that isn't what you mean.