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to raise awareness around the dangers, inefficiencies and injustice that can come from car dependence.
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Yes, also Teslas (media.mastodon.scot)

submitted 1 year ago by Masimatutu@mander.xyz to c/fuck_cars@lemmy.ml

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[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I was talking about tire dust being worse than brake dust. Was that a typo?

Literally no one is arguing that EVs aren't better for the climate than ICEs. But a lot of the climate harm of cars is not just tailpipe emissions, but bad land use. Pavement, parking lots, urban sprawl, are major contributors to climate change. I don't understand this idea that if we push to move away from cars, it will encourage ICE use. It's an inane argument.

edit: I also haven't seen studies of how much air particulate matter from tires contributes to the greenhouse effect. I don't doubt it's still better than ICEs, but it could still be significant.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You said tire pollution is potentially worse for the environment than tailpipe emissions. That is a wildly irresponsible thing to say. That's what I was objecting to.

There absolutely are people arguing that ICs are better for the environment, as if climate change doesn't affect the environment.

If you're going to buy a new car, don't, but if you're going to buy one anyway, prioritize reducing of ghg emissions.

Edited: changed "euphemistically" to reducing, my fault for not proofreading my auto correct (I use swore typing on my phone so sometimes things go really sideways)

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you’re responding to the wrong comment. The comment you’re responding to is one where I say that tire pollution is worse than brake pollution. In the thread where I say that tire pollution can be worse in some ways than tailpipe emissions, I specify that EVs are still better than ICEs for the climate.

So you’re responding to a comment where I didn’t say what you claim I said, while accusing me of holding a position I don’t hold.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think I'm in the wrong comment chain, and I think I commented before you clarified re climate change.

Also I've edited one of my comments explaining a really weird auto correct replacement i didn't catch, which may explain why you feel I'm accusing you of things.