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Trump pleads not guilty to charges that he plotted to overturn election
(www.washingtonpost.com)
this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2023
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Fuck the electoral college too. Clinton had 3 million more votes, she should have won.
Also fuck James comey
At least Comey had good motivations. I don’t think he anticipated the consequences and was naive at how rotten America was.
I don’t think we should shame someone for trying to uphold our collective (claimed) American values.
Hard disagree.
Most likely, Hillary just wouldn't have accomplished much of anything (and not so much for lack of agenda or effort but because of the unprecedented amount of rightwing/conservative resistance put up for everything she would have attempted. But at worst, it would just have been business as usual for another 4 years. Trump has actually turned the country, the executive branch, the judicial branch, national safety, the economy, and the environment into a continent-sized dumpster fire that will burn for decades. Hillary wouldn't have done that.
Hillary's greatest sin was coming into the 2016 election as if she'd already won...as if she -deserved- to win....as if it was pre-ordained...and that really rubbed people the wrong way. Being a woman didn't help - half this country are a few IQ points away from neanderthals who don't believe women are capable of leading a nation, so that didn't help either.
The democratic party also deserves much of the blame- they were going to shit on Bernie and promote Hillary regardless of what the common voters wanted...because they had the power to do that and they were willing to exercise that power. So fuck them too.
(if it's not obvious, I thought Bernie was the clear superior choice also)
Mmm yeah, nothing like a little casual misogyny to leaven a political discussion. Cool cool cool.
Calling a woman that isn't an opinion, it's just you being an asshole, asshole.
Don't cut yourself on that edge, asshole.
Freedom of speech is about the government not getting in the way of you saying what you want. But I understand that you don't actually care about freedom of speech, don't worry!
Sorry, you forgot to disparage a group of people this time, so we actually can't play a card. But don't let that stop you from believing that everyone who disagrees with you is a brainwashed sheep or whatever you tell yourself. CERTAINLY don't start to wonder what if everyone disagreeing with you might actually just be because your opinions are dumb, that's a dark road to go down! 😂
So you are pissed at Hillary for not winning but then say she would have been the same as trump. Wut
I don't think all the downvotes are for Bernie here
Lol get out of here with that shit. We are on a thread about trump pleading not guilty to conspiring to overturn an election. Just as bad in her own way. Fuck all the way off
Really? After 8 years of witnessing Trump being a politician you think that Hilary would have been no better? I doubt she would have ended up facing the DoJ.
I too wanted Bernie.
Be reasonable. I supported Bernie too, but I don't think Hillary would have plotted an insurrection...
But that hardly means that Hillary would have been as bad as twice impeached, insurrectionist, pussy grabber.
Also wanted Bernie, and fuck the DNC for propping Hillary up the way they did, which yeah basically handed the presidency to Trump on a silver platter..... but you're out of your fucking mind if you thing she'd have been just as bad. She would have been -okay-, which is orders of magnitude better than Agent Orange.
Bernie bro detected. You do you, man. Your logic is unassailable, according to your own logic.
Well, too bad he lost. Are you still living in 2016?
So.. yes?
You literally responded with "lol". Damn, you this bad at hiding your projection?
Oh, childish behavior like straight up misogyny? Ah, so that's what I should say to you using sexist terms because your guy lost in 2016, got it!
Lol
I support Bernie, wish he would have won and I think Bernie would think you're an asshole.
Objectively speaking... how exactly?
What policies of his would have made it through the Republican House and a Republican Senate?
Even if somehow Congress didn't fall to them still in 2020, how would policies of his passed a Senate filibuster?