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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So after your tribe grows too large(a state) it’s unsustainable

This is just a baseless trope with zero evidence to back it up - there is no theoretical upper limit on horizontal organizing. None.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is a baseless trope? It doesn't sound like you're using "trope" correctly.

There's no theoretical upper limit to many concepts, rendering that comment irrelevant, but anarchism historically has a practical upper limit on group size and proximity. You can't indefinitely grow your population without taking logistics and territory into account, and the lack of centralized resource management necessitates territorial expansion.

It sounds like maybe you have a question. You can ask that question.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

rendering that comment irrelevant,

No, Clyde... you elevated this to "relevance" when you, with zero proof to back it up, proposed a theoretical upper limit to horizontal organizing.

You.

You can’t indefinitely grow your population without taking logistics

Oh gee... you used a big, fancy word like "logistics" that anarchists couldn't have possibly heard of in the more than hundred years of anarchist organizing and theorizing - I guess you completely owned them, huh?

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

More on that note in "The Dawn of Everything" by David Graeber and David Wengrow.

The book is flawed but in some points simply enlightening.