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[–] rchive@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

90% of the stuff you encounter day to day would have been considered science fiction only a few decades ago. That doesn't answer whether capitalism actually requires growth, which it doesn't, or where the meme came from.

Our production efficiency, production per inputs, is larger now than in the past. That's doing more with less.

Which societies

These countries tend to be the most capitalist, meaning private ownership of the means and subsequent free exchange of goods and services, and they also tend to be the most wealthy with low poverty. That distribution matches fertility fairly closely. Link

that's a good thing, is it?

It is if the thing you're worried about is the impact of the human species on the rest of the planet. Fewer people means less impact with the same per person impact.

we could just achieve that easily by giving women reproductive rights

The capitalist west is the most abortion permitting part of the world. Legal rights are a luxury good, unfortunately. Kinda seems like capitalism is in fact required.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

been considered science fiction only a few decades ago.

Feel free to show us the "infinite" resources you have access to any time you feel like, Clyde.

That’s doing more with less.

No. We are doing more with more. The rate at which our industries are churning through resources would have been unimaginable to anyone a century ago... and so would the wastage it creates.

private ownership - free exchange of goods

Try not to get entangled in logical contradictions in the very same sentence, Clyde. When everything is privately owned, it's only the private owners that gets to engage in a "free exchange of goods."

the most wealthy with low poverty.

And the fact that these countries are all beneficiaries of hundreds of years of hyper-violent colonialism has nothing to do with any of this, of course.

It is if the thing you’re worried

No, I'm actually not worried about it. The "overpopulation" myth is right-wing propaganda and nothing else - it's the ravenous and utterly parasitic profiteering of capitalists themselves that are driving over-consumption. Not the world's poor.

Legal rights are a luxury good, unfortunately. Kinda seems like capitalism is in fact required.

So you are fine with your modern-day feudalism... as long as your capitalist overlords throws slightly more crumbs your way than they do everybody else.