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[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Newfoundland has one of the largest amout of dairy farms in Canada and not a single one dumps milk.

[–] HardNut@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True. I believe Newfoundland farmers have more freedoms in who they sell to and for what prices. BC and Ontario both sell their milk through a provincial dairy commission, and since the commission stopped taking in milk, and they can only sell through them, the milk had to be dumped. If they had fewer regulations in BC and Ontario that allowed them to market their product at lower prices to other sellers, they wouldn't have had to dump it.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Newfoundland(And most of Canada) literally has 2 companies to sell to.

[–] HardNut@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Then evidently having 2 to sell to rather than 1 governing board of commissions worked better, right?

Dairy and meat prices still are overpriced over there, so I'm not surprised there's only 2, but it also makes sense that something as absurd simply dumping excess can only happen when there's only one buyer who has 0 incentive to negotiate price

[–] HardNut@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, I took your word for it when I first read this response, but it turns out dairy farmers in Newfoundland were asked to dump milk by their provincial dairy association. So yes, they have had to dump milk, and it was directly caused by the provincial dairy commission.

Also, the whole milk dumping thing became viral because of Ontario specifically, each case of which was cause by government regulation: https://globalnews.ca/video/9459508/milk-dump-dairy-farmer-exposes-where-excess-milk-goes/ https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/02/dairy-farmer-dumping-excess-milk/ https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-viral-video-shows-canadas-dirty-dairy-secret-we-dump-lots-of-milk

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your source relates to the dumping of milk due to demand drop during covid. Can't sell spoiled milk.

[–] HardNut@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

But you can sell unspoiled milk for lower prices. Regulation prevents them from lowering price or selling to other marketers. That's a fact. Regulations restricted sales. Regulation restricted dropping prices.

Regulation causes dumping, free markets cause lower prices. You have not falsified that idea yet.