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[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no “The Economy”.

There really is. Even without capitalism, the median buying power of an individual will always be a thing.

Weakening welfare hurts workers.

Obviously. It hurts everyone, so of course it hurts workers.

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Weakening welfare helps the oligarchs.

Notice how they keep doing it.

Workers and oligarchs have mutually antagonist interests.

"The Economy" is a construct that obfuscates the class antagonism.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Weakening welfare helps the oligarchs.

Actually, it doesn't. Strong welfare has created wealth for companies like Walmart. Regardless of intent, almost every law makes the Oligarchs richer.

Notice how they keep doing it.

Conservatives keep doing it. The Conservatives cater to the wealthy, but it isn't just the wealthy that guide the party's direction . The Fortune 500 find limited benefit shrinking welfare, but rich individuals (not super-wealthy) would rather an extra couple grand in their tax return, and conservative people hate the idea of someone getting something for nothing.

Workers and oligarchs have mutually antagonist interests.

There's more than 2 categories of people in the world. It's not oligarchs voting against welfare. And most people voting against welfare come from a line of thought that predates Oligarchy in the US.

“The Economy” is a construct that obfuscates the class antagonism.

Calling something fiction doesn't make it so.

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are a troll, a reactionary posing as a leftist.

Your impersonation is weak and transparent.

You have no understanding of leftism more nuanced or accurate than would appear in any reactionary tropes.

You are trying to erase class struggle.

You object unrelentingly to every conceivable detail, in a desperate and pathetic attempt to construct a parity and partnership between workers and oligarchs.

Welfare was won by the blood of workers, not given by rulers by their own accord or for their own benefit.

Fuck off, and learn history, troll.