Historians of the medieval era hate the term "dark ages", even in relation to Europe. The whole notion that the Roman Empire went poof one day and then everything sucked for 1000 years is just cartoonishly wrong.

[–] Speiser0@feddit.de 13 points 10 months ago

I once heard in some history tv show that it's called "dark ages" not because of the bad living conditions, but because we know so few things about it, compared to other history periods.

[–] ToastyMedic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Only a little unfortunate they skipped the enlightenment, akin to what Europe had.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They didn't skip it, the enlightenment was a continuation of what they came up with. I'm pretty sure they didn't deny the earth is round and the sun is the center of our galaxy.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Medieval people thinking the Earth was flat is a myth that was made up during the Age of Enlightenment.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hmmm, the minions probably did think the earth was flat since that's what the church told them. Definitely, most of the thinkers of that time knew it wasn't and were told to keep it hush hush or there would be harsh punishment. It's not a one size fits all kind of thing, and just like everything else, it's complicated.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

That is a myth that has been debunked a long time ago. In fact, the Earth being round was discovered in antiquity and Eratosthenes measured the Earth's circumference almost accurately in about 240 BC.

[–] ToastyMedic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's not what it was, not by a long shot, but alright.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Now you've got me curious, what do you think they didn't continue? The art wasn't the same, is that it? We should be very thankful they saved a lot of knowledge that could have been lost.

[–] ToastyMedic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What the hell are you talking about? I'm talking about enlightenment, you know, the explosion of philosophy in the 17th century?such as the explosion of liberalism, ideas of socialism, The theories of government, American and french revolution, ect.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So science wasn't part of it?

[–] decisivelyhoodnoises@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

I seriously believe you've messed up the years

[–] decisivelyhoodnoises@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sorry what learning and expanding are you talking about? Can you please be specific about which years and give a source?

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

pretty much everything between ~600 and 1900 and pretty much everywhere from Morrocco to Turkey to Iran.

Just read up on Moors, Ottomans, Iranians, Mail Empire, Islamic culture, science and arts...

A lot of it in Palestine got destroyed by the savage European crusaders though.