I don't think anyone even records this stuff in Venezuela or Syria anymore, and due to corruption no one cares. You have no idea how chaotic things are there. I know people there who got shot and never got even picked up for weeks because no one dares to cross that street anymore. The stories are horrifying.

Please stop making excuses. Once you have no more food, clean water, electricity, and persistent hyper-inflation, then let's have that discussion again.

The irony I see here is that people keep saying that Norway is amazing socialism and everyone should do that in the US... I'm not from the US for the record. Let's not get into that discussion, but it's just an ironic thing coming to mind.