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I want to know why did the Democrats vote to remove the old speaker. Why did they throw away someone that would work with them for a unknown and now someone that is willing to duck over the world to get what he wants.
I didn't know about all the backstabbing that McCarthy did, thanks to the ones that explained it.
Republicans, specifically Matt Gaetz, voted to remove McCarthy. It's not Democrat's responsibility to vote for Republicans.
I have to disagree with that, they had someone that was working with them and they threw it away. If the funding for Ukraine doesn't pass or the gov shuts down I see it as much as the Dems fault as the Repubs.
This is straight up disinformation
Everything McCarthy did, he did to please Republicans. Most Republicans privately don't want a shutdown, they know it's electoral poison for the GOP. Especially for Republicans in vulnerable districts, like Boebert (ever wonder why she voted to keep government open? Now you know).
Likewise, apart from a few loudmouths Republicans generally want Ukraine aid - in fact McConnell insists on it - and that's the only reason McCarthy included it.
McCarthy wasn't doing Democrats any favors. On the contrary, he backstabbed Democrats when he thought he could get away with it. No reason for Democrats to support someone like that.
Johnson isn't deaf, Republicans will privately make the same demands to him that they did to McCarthy, he has to do what they want just like McCarthy did, and Democrats know it. Hopefully with less backstabbing this time.
Is "someone", in the room with us right now?
Then you are a useful idiot for Republicans, assuming you're not just a troll.
Because McCarthy wasn't actually working with Democrats. Simple as that.
McCarthy explicitly refused to work with Democrats on the vast majority of issues. The dude was an enormous coward
That may be true but he also would have been voted out by his own party if he had. Honestly, they turned on him as soon as he DID work with Democrats.
If the Democrats had voted to keep McCarthy as the speaker despite McCarthy’s previous record of uncooperation and reneging, it would have signaled to him and the republicans that the democrats can be pushed back further. It would have been a disastrous move politically for the democrats. Remember, McCarthy voted against certifying the election results so he did not have a great record of upholding democratic values and could not be trusted to negotiate in good faith.
Anyone who gets a speaker position in that house is a cunt, no doubt.
Finally something here In this particular comment thread I can agree with 100%. Same goes for a president. After all the shit it took for them to get to this spot, you don’t want them as president.