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[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, Hamas took power by killing Palestinian civilians. They don’t represent anyone and they openly say they will martyr civilians.

The Palestinian National Authority (Fatah) was the democratically elected government of Palestine before 2007. Hamas staged a coup and executed Fatah officials, which is why Gaza and the West Bank are separate entities today.

Hamas is as much a state as Al-Qaeda. They’re a terrorist group that seized power by way of murder and have openly declared they intend to use their citizens as shields and martyrs.

They’re not a state. They’re a terror cell that deserves to be eliminated. Unfortunately their own admitted tactics of using civilians as shields means that civilians will be killed.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They aren't making the IDF bomb apartment buildings, which is something they've been doing for decades, before Israel helped create Hamas.

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

So where is Israel's responsibility there, in sponsoring terrorists? Or do we pretend notiing happened before the last few weeks because then we can sort of pretend Israel has no culpability, you know, if we squint and try to avoid looking at the bombing of civilians?

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Yes they are. By their own admission in this article.

Hamas by their own damn admission uses civilians as shields and intends to martyr them.

Your article leaves out the fact that Israel funded and supported several Islamic organizations at the time in both Gaza and the West Bank. One became a terrorist institution.

Take the whole history into account. After the six day war, Israel was in the position that they needed all the support they could get. So they supported anyone that opposed the PLO, which was sponsored by Egypt and Fatah. Because that’s who they just were attacked by.

Israel funded dozens of Islamic organizations that were opposed to Fatah, including mosques and schools. Hamas came out of one of them.