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Hamas could achieve a cease-fire right now by releasing the hostages. But then they would have to account for the ones they have already murdered.
Who is down voting this and why are you down voting it? Explain yourself
Troll farms or pro hamas tankies
stop caring for downvotes on this topic. this discussion has lost its objectivity a long time ago and the current meta is that israel is bad and should somehow bow to terrorism.
I don't know why though 😅
I did. There's no fucking way this all stops if Hamas just releases the hostages. This is a completely delusional statement.
Ok, yeah, this is the response of a very normal and rational person.
If Hamas releases every single hostage they have, they cannot prove they have no more hostages. So the situation would not change.
There is no de-escalation from the current positions, there is going to be an invasion, and Hamas is going to be destroyed, at least as it exist today.
Lol, lets just assume for simplicity this is exactly what Hamas demands:
Israel doesn't care, they already killed several hostages in the bombing runs. Hell the US probably had to tell them to hold back to give them more time for negotiations. They will not accept any agreement with Hamas, so the only thing Hamas would accomplish releasing the Hostages with no agreement would be an instant full invasion.
Moreover, the actual demands from Hamas are basically cease fire + release arrested hamas members in exchange for hostages. Surprisingly, I don't think they actually made one of those impossible demands like "cease the existence of Israel's government"
The reason Hamas is trickling out hostages is because unlike Israel, every other nation does care about the hostages, especially the international ones. Hamas knows this, and can use it as leverage to force Israel to either slow down, stop, or eventually negotiate some sort of agreement. The most important one obviously being the American hostages because the USA has direct military involvement and leverage over Israel.
Whether or not it works is a different story.
Because I can.
That's a lot of down votes for an honest statement
you're on lemmy, what do you expect?
It's just tiring at this point. Even if you have lived there, aren't a zionist, family been there for 500+ years, and try to cut through all the bullshit to explain the context no one cares. It's just politically extremist tribalism which is exactly what caused the issue we are discussing.
There's also a lot of censorship going on and it's a bit sick since the posts and comments I've seen censored often include Palestinians talking about the situation. largely ones from Hamas, some who left. It doesn't fit whatever whoever is doing the removing wants on the front page I guess.
Who's removing that?
I just see the mod log entries and "post_not_found" errors in my comment history. But it's against the rules to be more specific.
Sometimes it seems like a legitimate site error because I can see the comments in the web UI but not the app api.
It's quite interesting looking at Lemmy and then going back and looking at Reddit. The latter is taking IDF's words as gospel, and the former likes to pretend Hamas and their atrocities don't exist.
Flitting between the two actually helps cancel out the absurd bias.
Hamas will only release the hostages in exchange for all Palestinians in Israeli jails