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[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oklahoma's roads are notoriously terrible. Even the expensive toll roads aren't great.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly they are shit and raised the cost of the tolls. I live near the Tulsa area you can't get to many places conveniently without taking a toll road. And they are shit.

[–] Illegal_Prime@dmv.social 2 points 1 year ago

Roads are stupid expensive and receive ridiculous subsidies to stay operational. This is one of the most annoying things people get wrong about transportation, apparently roads don’t have to pay for themselves (and rarely do) but rail must turn a profit (it does sometimes) despite rail being exponentially better for transportation. Nobody wants to be near a highway, but everyone wants to be near a train station (and I don’t think the racists who don’t want trains have ever ridden one).