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I switched back to firefox last week because I wanted to get away from Chromium. I was previously using Brave.

I have been having a MULTITUDE of issues with FF this week, and if I can't figure out how to resolve them I'm going back to Brave. I've tried everything I can think to do to fix it, and nothing has worked. I've never seen any of these issues on any other browsers, this is 100% a firefox problem.

I'm on the latest build of FF on Windows 10 and have the following plugins:

  • Bitwarden
  • UBlockOrigin
  • Simple Login
  • Multi-account Containers
  • ProtonVPN
  • Old Reddit Redirect
  • RES
  • Enhancer for Youtube

The issues I'm having:

  1. Occasionally FF just hangs, won't respond to inputs, and the only way to recover it is to kill the process via control panel. When FF crashes like this I NEVER see the crash reporter, it's like FF thinks nothing happened and everything is fine.
  2. Sometimes my tabs just don't work. Like, I'll open a tab, type something in to search it, and it just hangs. I had this problem for YEARS when FF was my daily browser before switching to brave 2 years back because it got too annoying. This issue is COMPLETELY RANDOM, and happens within 1 minute of making a new tab- sometimes it will happen when I first try to navigate anywhere inside the new tab, sometimes it happens after I'm in a website.
  3. Sometimes FF refuses to start. I'll turn the computer on, click FF, and nothing will happen- then I'll go into control panel, kill the FF process, and try again until it works- usually when I do this the browser crashes at least once when it starts.

I can't make any sense of why this browser is so unstable for me, but it is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than it was last time I abandoned FF. I actually have FEWER addons than I did when I used FF as my daily driver before. If I can't figure this out this time I'm just not going to look back.

I have tried:

  1. Safe mode. This seems to fix it for a bit, but eventually either tabs stop working or the browser crashes. I'm pretty confident this is NOT an issue with any of my plugins- I'm using either official FF ones (multi-account containers) or very reputable plugins from good sources.
  2. Turning on/off hardware acceleration. This has no impact whatsoever
  3. I have repeatedly deleted all cookies, history, and cache, and reset the startup cache.
  4. Clean install FF
  5. Refresh FF
  6. Last time I tried to fix FF before switching to Brave, I found that having the FF Profiler running AT ALL TIMES actually seemed to make things a little bit better- but the profiler never once turned up anything useful.

I'm at my wits end here. I really want to be able to move off of chromium but FF is so incredibly annoying to use in its current state that I simply can't do that until I find fixes to these issues. Has anyone here got any clue what else I can do to try to diagnose this?

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[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This reeks of a problem with your system, not Firefox.

Are you using an HDD or SDD?

[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

SSD.

I'm running an I9-9900K CPU, a GTX4070TI, and have 32gb of ram. I'm pretty certain it isn't a hardware issue...

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ctrl+shift+esc

Performance tab

Click on memory

What speed is listed on that tab for your memory? Actually a screenshot of this would be way better.

In the meantime, grab revo uninstaller and uninstall Firefox with it, making sure to nix all found files and registry keys associated with it.

Are you running AV besides windows defender? If you are, uninstall that junk too and reenable windows defender.

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Actually, Bulk Crap Uninstaller is the better way to go over Revo. Does everything Revo does, and more, and it's FOSS.

[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The memory speed is 3600mHz, I don't think the ram is the problem...

As I said elsewhere, I don't use any other AV other than Windows Defender. The others are all just malware in disguise.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay next thing to try, go to portableapps.com and get Firefox from there and see how it runs.

[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So I ended up reinstalling windows, and that seems to have fixed the problems. Not really sure what was causing it in the end; if they start happening again I'll post something here. Thanks for the help!

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I'm glad you got it sorted! I really wish we could have figured out what was going on but hopefully reinstalling solves any other issues that that one issue might have been causing in the background.

Cheers!

[–] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 year ago

You are the MVP man! You never gave up!

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty certain you should run a thorough memtest on your RAM.

Some of the issues you've described are similar to what was happening to me due to unknowingly using RAM with a 64KB bad area on it.

I don't know why Firefox is particularly sensitive to bad-RAM but it is. (Although I did have some of them happen with LibreOffice occasionally, the failure to start for example.)

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

That's what I think as well. I've been using FF for a few years now and never face these problems.