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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 106 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't get it, apart from companies wanting to cover their corporate real estate investments.

All of my work is on a computer

All of my colleagues' work is on computer.

So why the fuck would I want to meet in person to address a problem? So one of us can literally breathe down the other's neck looking at the same screen?

GTFO.

[–] howsetheraven@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You just said it in your first sentence. It's not rocket surgery, your literal meat existence will be used for passive profit.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 year ago

Oh, I'm aware, but the corporate bull shit they push to sell us on it is insulting to our collective intelligence.

[–] ribboo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

If that’s the reason WFH should be the new normal in a couple of years when leases are up. That won’t happen though.

[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For their greedy brains, this is literally about control and surveillance. They can't make sure that you are working the full company time and even overtime while at home in your comfort and pyjamas.

[–] III@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Correct - not that their big-brother asses would be caught dead in areas where the employees work. They just want to feel like people are there. It's enough to bring in a cardboard cut-out.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's wild about that is that I am working outside business hours when I wfh. I'm showing up earlier, staying later, doing little quick things when i think of them rather than putting them off until the next day in the office, and I'm taking a lot less PTO because there's a pretty wide gulf between "too sick to get fully dressed, drive for 45 minutes and face actual human beings in person" and "too sick to accomplish anything if I'm left alone and allowed to take breaks when i need them". But you're right, there is a certain school of management that teaches that employees are an enemy who want nothing more than to steal from the company by being paid to do nothing, that a manager's primary job is to catch and punish these slackers, and that a lack of evidence of employees slacking off is proof that they're lazy and smart enough to hide it. Fortunately for me I now have a boss who knows that I do this work because I like it and that the team and the work will benefit most from me being left alone to do it and occasionally helped with blockers as they come up.

[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You actually touched on something that really pisses me off about my 100% work from home job.

It's the fact that my boss can somehow justify that you roll yourself out of bed and log in. He literally uses the phrase sometimes "too sick to log in?" As a means of discouragement from calling out sick, or at the very least get some productivity out of you while you're sick.

Name a job that would try this shit in real life? When you've called out you've called out, it doesn't mean reduced workload because you're sick ffs.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Name a job that would try this shit in real life?

Idk, literally all of them? The fact that it's physically impossible for them to bring the workload to your house doesn't mean they aren't gonna try every other method of manipulation and social pressure in an effort to get you to sacrifice yourself for the good of the company.

[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Well, the idea is that there are "levels" to being sick. In CA this shit would never fly.

I don't even like calling it "sick" I call out for the day, period. I'm not calling in sick or calling in hung over or calling in for family reasons, I'm fucking NOT AVAILABLE for today.

This is the bullshit that wfh has brought and of course not all companies are doing this.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are paying those investments prices if people are in the office or not. At least if people are WFH and used to it, you can downsize your office if and when the need arises.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

Or the lease expires.

Exactly much of my argument for WFH

[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That's what my company did and it feels a bit odd. Like we have no "home" now.