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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can they though? What does a pedestrian friendly roundabout look like? The ones I’ve seen seem outright hostile.

I tried to find data but it doesn’t seem well studied. Since standard road design is so horrifically unsafe, unless it is substantially better it does not seem worth redesigning the intersection. I’d rather see that money go into something that has a proven benefit.

Further reading: https://streets.mn/2017/11/17/are-roundabouts-safer-for-pedestrians/

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crosswalk bridges. Something used in not just roundabouts.

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crosswalk bridges are pretty hostile to pedestrians. They need to be at least 4 meters/12 ft high, to accommodate standard lorries. Nobody likes climbing high stairs on every crossing. Even worse for wheelchair users.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only we'd invented some sort of sloped surface. Maybe call it a "ramp"?

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Scaling a 4 meter high ramps on every intersection sounds like a fucking nightmare

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, because no one anywhere has ever built a ramp that made sense.

You're intentionally being obtuse.

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It doesn't matter how much sense your ramp makes, it still needs enough height to allow trucks to pass under it. That's a lot of height to gain. Any sensible ramp would be very long and take up a lot of space, and be very impractical to have to scale at every intersection.