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[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cherrypicking examples doesn't prove your point. I can find trans terfs people who think protecting trans kids makes you a groomer, that doesn't make it any less awful of a take. Stop being an obnoxious racist vegan on the internet pls

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok but try actually reading the arguments before you dismiss them? It's not bad takes.

Comparing two bad things doesn't take anything away from either, it's just a comparison.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So it's fine to say your comparison is like Trump spewing nonsense on social media? Since I didn't take anything away from either, it’s just a comparison.

While technically you are correct, I think it is important to notice and respect meaningful differences. Good comparisons have similarities in prominent attributes. Comparisons with dissimilarities in key aspects show something in between thoughtlessness and dishonesty, depending on the degree of awareness.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure you can make that comparison, it seems a bit nonsensical to me tho.

There are similarities, that's the point, try reading the article.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are similarities, that’s the point

Trump and you are persons, both make comments, both on the internet, both controversial, driven by an agenda ... we could go on.

Of course there are obvious differences which make the comparison nonsensical. Also possibly tasteless or offensive. Holocaust comparisons are in that same camp.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

Try reading the article.

[–] wozomo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kindly fuck off with your spammy “relevant” links and your sanctimonious “oh you’re almost there, sweetie” attitude.

We get it, you’re vegan and you think everyone should be. Unfortunately, that’s never going to happen, but what can happen is that people reduce the amount of animal products they consume, which would have a MASSIVE impact relative to how things are now.

That said, your attitude is actively harming the cause that you espouse. Nobody’s gonna want to go vegan if this is how you act about it, jfc.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are you so angry at someone simply providing sources and advocating that we stop harming animals?

You make it sound like I've been rude and condescending but I haven't.

[–] wozomo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’ve absolutely been self-righteous about it. I think this comment is a good example, as is spam posting the same links without really saying anything other than “or…you could go vegan :) tee hee!”

It’s not productive, and actively turns people off in a time when many of those same people are, for the first time, reconsidering their dietary balance.

It’s like criticizing an out-of-shape person at the gym. Maybe they’re not doing it the way you think it should be ideally done, but they’re at least trying and doing something rather than giving up entirely.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago

I don't see what's self-righteous about that comment.

The links provide context to the discussion, giving people the data so they can verify is a good thing.

It seems like you feel attacked, I haven't attacked you.