THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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Yes. Gladly. This disgusting cop tortured and killed a deer, which has some real serial killer vibes. I pointed out that it blows my mind that this story, which is obviously sick, gets headlines and traction faster than stories of cops killing innocent people. Because we're so numb to them killing people.
Apparently this has upset people somehow? Pointing out how this sicko is on leave for torturing and killing an animal while cops go back to their jobs regularly after savagely killing people. Not really sure how else to point out how repulsive the situation has become, but clearly people must have thought I was attempting to dismiss the severity of repugnant behavior? Who knows. People are weird.
Okay thanks I understand now, I really was struggling to understand your point. My brain could not make the connection that your list was things cops have killed for and not a list of petty crimes you find more important than this lmao.
Honestly it’s likely just human nature. No one likes to hear “this is bad, but can you think about this worse thing that happens more?” Especially when we hear about that worse thing about every day, the story on the killing of a falsely convicted man after release just happened. Regardless of whether that was intentional, it’s the primary takeaway as you can recognize.
Like, you’re 100% right, but nobody here gained anything from it. The few people who haven’t noticed the same phenomenon after years of brutal police headlines are unlikely to walk away from that feeling like it was a useful comment. It sounded judgmental and preachy, reminded people of terrible things they already knew about, and altogether probably just made people feel worse. There are more productive times and ways to express this sentiment.
Btw I’m not judging you or saying that was your intent, we’ve all been here. I interpreted “people are weird” as some desire for explanation and I believe this to be the most likely scenario. I’m not trying to be negative about it or anything.
Nobody was supposed to gain anything from my comment, it was a conversational piece. A comment about the story, and the police problem as a whole. Which is, after all, what this entire sub is about.
I didn't hear about anybody being killed just after release, which sort of proves the point I was making in the first place. And to be frank with you, people should feel worse about the situation we find ourselves in with police all around the US and the world generally. Maybe if people felt worse we'd get back to demanding change.
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