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UEFA handed out two additional fines: One €26K fine for people standing on the stairs and another €8K fine for lighting two flares in the crowd.

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[–] SeyamTheDaddy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I wouldn't put it past their greedy asses to do a match ban for fans, the difference in treatment of Palestine and Ukraine invasions is laughably disgusting

[–] ConflictGuru@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Why would they ban fans? It's just a money making scam to them. If there's no fans there'll be nothing to fine them for.

[–] hafrances@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

slava ukraini vs free palestine is very much the flirting vs harrassment meme

[–] JB_UK@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a bad comparison because Ukraine is controlled by a decent government, with its population's support, fighting to protect an invasion across clearly defined borders. The moral high ground in the Israel Palestine conflict is held by the civilians on both sides, neither government can claim a clear moral high ground. Palestine is controlled half by a fundamentalist religious cult that calls for Israel to be destroyed, and even the other half is run by a moderate party whose leader wrote a doctoral thesis full of Holocaust denial.

The Ukrainian government does not call for the whole of Russia to be put under Ukrainian control, it does not call for people to kill Russian civilians in other countries, like Hamas does. It has not invaded Russia or deliberately targeted Russian civilians. This is the former Interior minister of Hamas, and current member of the legislative council:

“Seven million Palestinians outside, enough warming up, you have Jews with you in every place. You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and kill them.”

Ukraine is a simple situation. Palestine is complex, and there is no flag you can fly or slogan you can chant which represents what is needed to have a fair outcome.

[–] wimpires@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Free Palestine seems pretty fair, sure much more fair that a "Enslave Palestine" flag

[–] -zimms-@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

"Enslave Palestine" flag

Never seen one of those.

Yes, "Free Palestine" is fair. "From the river to the sea" is not.

[–] PhillipLlerenas@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did Ukrainian spend the last 100 years murdering Russian civilians? Did Ukrainian groups attack Russian civilians in cafes and buses? Did Ukrainian groups attack schools and murder Russian children? Did Ukrainian groups snipe Russian babies?

Did a Ukrainian militia rampage through a Russian town raping Russian women on top of the bodies of their murdered friends, tie children and parents together and the burn them alive while live-streaming it?

No?

Then the two situations aren’t remotely the same.

[–] SeyamTheDaddy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Last time I checked ukraine wasn't under a naval and land blockede for over a decade either. If they were it would've sparked outrage in the west

[–] bcotrim@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

That's why no politics should be displayed on the field. It was the same with the BLM, you could have that on shirts but not against China treatment of the Uyghur, for example

Politics can still be discussed by footballers and in the media around it, but during the game, football should be the only show, otherwise you're just using it to push your beliefs