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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Internet arguments cannot be won

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 82 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The only reason I argue on the internet (when I can be bothered) is so that people reading the thread will that an opposing opinion exists, not because I hope to convince the person I'm arguing with.

[–] Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago

I appreciate it. I've scoured an uncountable amount of debates over years and its helped me become aware of new ideas.

I doubt I'd have woken up without them

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Invaluable. Unchecked ignorance is contagious.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah.

That also means that when the other person starts resorting to personal attacks you can point it out and let that discussion go, as they're not going to be convincing anybody who is reading and thinking once have, by making it personal and insulting others, implicitly admitted that they don't have rational arguments backing up their strongly held opinion.

[–] Val@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I do it in order to understand my own viewpoint more clearly. It is a lot easier to figure out what you believe when faced with things you do not believe.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

I think about this comment regularly. Genuinely drastically altered my perspective on arguing with internet strangers.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to think otherwise but you’re probably right.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You probably can't get them to admit you've won, but you can convince observers and sometimes them, later, after they've had time to internalize.

Just accept that most people don't have the ego to admit they're wrong, or arguing against strawmen.

And, if I may be so bold:

Sometimes the person who needs to admit they're wrong is you.

(Not me tho)

[–] girl@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I have won exactly one internet argument. I will remember it forever.

Not with that attitude

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They definitely can be won and I won’t be convinced otherwise! What makes you think they can’t be won man???? Cite your sources! I heard from my brothers dog walker that her sisters father in laws cousin wins them all the time. OWNED!!!

[–] pascal@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

It depends on effort and money. Internet propagand made Americans vote for Trump and convince people can claim their own pronouns.