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A Detroit synagogue president was found fatally stabbed outside her home Saturday morning.

Samantha Woll, 40, led the congregation of Isaac Agree Downtown Synagogue. The synagogue confirmed Woll's death Saturday in a statement writing, “We are shocked and saddened to learn of the unexpected death of Samantha Woll, our Board President.”

“May her memory be a blessing,” the statement continued.

Authorities said a 911 call was made to Woll's home early Saturday, reporting an individual lying on the ground unresponsive. Police discovered multiple stab wounds on Woll's body and found a trail of blood leading to her house, where they believe the crime occurred.

An investigation is underway. At this time, the motive for the crime remains unknown.

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[–] krellor@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can appreciate that position, but let's dig into the nuance a little bit.

After 2005 Israel had a temporary blockade which ended in 2006. After 2007 and the election of Hamas, a new blockade enforced by Israel and Egypt was implemented to isolate Hamas. Excerpt from Wikipedia:

Israel blockaded the Gaza Strip temporarily in 2005–2006. In 2007, after Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip, both Israel and Egypt have imposed an indefinite blockade of Gaza that is ongoing to present day, on the grounds that Fatah and Palestinian Authority forces had fled the Strip and were no longer able to provide security on the Palestinian side..

I fully recognize that traditionally a blockade can constitute an act of war, and exerts control over a region or country, so I understand why the UN considered a blockade am ipso facto occupation.

At the same time, where is the outrage against Egypt, and what less invasive measure do you propose Israel and Egypt take to ensure regional security when you have a neighbor whose stated purpose is the violation of UN recognized borders?

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

This blockade (and the soldiers enforce against) being on Palestinian land is technically an occupation, but I don't know why that other guy was so obsessed with the technical difference between blockades and occupations in this one, specific area of Palestine, and it was never my stance that the blockade is the only occupation or that Gaza is the only important occupied Palestinian territory.

It looks like you want to discuss specifically the latest 16 years of occupation in this tiny little area.

So, since 2007, and ignoring the other occupied territories and the gazan blockade, IDF soldiers entered into Palestine to occupy the city in an effort to ostensibly stop Hamas. Israel also occupies the territorial waters and airspace of Gaza and has launched airstrikes against Gaza. In 2010, is real attack sex civilian ships in Palestinian territorial waters, in 2012, IDF soldiers in Palestine shot some fisherman on gazan land, and it goes on and on.

So ignoring the blockade, there's an overwhelming military presence by IDF(the Israeli military) regularly occupying the land, sea and air inside and around Gaza.

Let's talk about Egypt.

Egypt is not as dependent on or cozied up to the US as israel is, so they don't have the same interest in attacking or occupying Palestine that israel does.

Right now, while Israel is refusing food, water and fuel to Palestine because Israelis believe Palestinians are animals who need to be punished, Egypt is preparing an aid package.

So if you're wondering why the outrage against Egypt is less than that against Israel, it's because Egypt does not display the historied animosity toward or undeniable occupation of Palestine that Israel shows.

Those aren't Egyptian settlers forcing Palestinians off their land. Those aren't Egyptian soldiers blowing up hospitals and schools every year. The colonizers are Israeli and the attacks on hospitals and schools are perpetrated by Israeli soldiers.

Your last question is about a less invasive measure to ensure regional security.

Stay out of Palestinian territories. Stop actively settling on Palestinian land. Don't publicly announce that Palestinian land is actually Israeli land and then broadcast a map that erases Palestine from the map. Definitely stop bombing the schools and hospitals, and shoot less civilians, since I think the Palestinians consider those illegal settlements and civilian bombings and murders on their land pretty invasive (me too).