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[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have kids, but I know some teachers AND some cops... police don't like to get involved in bullying because it could ruin some kid's future for being "young and dumb". Putting a kid "into the system" for shoving a younger kid in a locker strikes them as "could make that kid not grow up to be a productive adult".

And they have a point. Juvie does bad things to kids, according to everyone I know who has been there or who has had a kid go there. They're as likely to be scared-violent as scared straight.

And as you and I know, it's about scaring the school straight, not the kids. But the school often knows all this. Especially small-town schools.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Better send that bully to juvie than letting them keep on bullying other innocent children. I rather let the innocent keep being innocent.

Fuck bullies and their future.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Better send that bully to juvie than letting them keep on bullying other innocent children.

Unless you plan on locking that bully up for a long time or overhauling several systems, you're statistically creating worse than just a bully with juvie. The current legal system doesn't have a good measured response for bullying. You either do almost nothing or dis-proportionally (and ineffectively) punish them.

Fuck bullies and their future.

And fuck their victims, too? Because bullies only have a slight chance (still much higher than non-bullies) of becoming adult offenders, but if you put them in juvie, that number skyrockets.

Look. I have no sympathy for bullies, and had to deal with my share of them. But when someone decides the answer in a broken system is to increase the suffering of minors, that's when I put my foot down.