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On the other hand, if you think you're dealing with a dangerous criminal that can pull out a gun and shoot you and a buddy dead in the time it takes your squad to react and shoot him dead, I don't think it's reasonable to politely ask to see three forms of ID before tying up the target just in case you got the wrong house.
Sure, it's bad on them for getting the wrong place, but having to apologize to one person because they got the wrong house is far better than triple checking and asking the suspect to make sure they got the right place only to risk turning a quick one and done incident into a lethal shootout.
You don't need to wake the house up to confirm the address.
I looked a bit closer at the article, and it said that the man was the one who came out of the building first, so the police wasn't even storming the building yet when he showed up.
When you're expecting an armed criminal, you think it's better for the police to politely ask for the person's ID to confirm that he has nothing to do with the operation, or remember that being within 7m of a man with a knife is being within killing range, and not take any unnecessary risks to their lives since they don't know yet if he isn't some armed criminal until they can safely examine him?
His own testimony states that the police hadn't even started storming the building, so for all you know, they were in the middle of confirming they were at the right location when he suddenly came out face to face with the officers who were expecting a dangerous criminal.
Look a little closer at the article, the warrant was for a different address and the man was naked. It would've been extremely easy to confirm he wasn't the right guy, and that he wasn't armed.
Let's say that it was the correct address and the police weren't sexually harassing the man, why use tear gas when the guy that they believe to be the threat was already handcuffed on the ground?
If you're expecting an armed criminal, you're already primed to do all sorts of stupid, violent, unhelpful things, so you'd better be extra fucking sure to apply the policies and procedures that are designed to keep you and everyone else safe in these tense, dangerous situations, and were written in the blood of officers and innocent victims.
You got some shoe polish on your chin. Lil' smudge.