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President Joe Biden was asked by a reporter in Israel on Wednesday what made him confident that the Israelis weren't behind the explosion that killed hundreds at a Gaza hospital on Tuesday.

Biden responded that it was "the data I was shown by my Defense Department."

Two U.S. officials told ABC News the Pentagon independently concluded the Gaza hospital blast was likely caused by an errant Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket that fell short of its target.

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[–] blitzkrieg@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can't imagine people running away from being bombed being more tightly packed than people attending a conference?

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, fair point. But still, the explosion only has finite power. Shock waves literally do have a kill limit. They cannot rip through waves and waves of human flesh and still come out deadly on the other side. At some point, the energy is absorbed, the fragments are absorbed.

[–] blitzkrieg@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point, no one is arguing about how many people died, people are arguing about who did it.

Now, who has a rocket that can kill hundreds of humans, the Israeli army, one of the most powerful armies in the world, backed by the US, the most powerful army in the world, or Hamas, who make pitiful self-made rockets from metal pipes?

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no one is arguing about how many people died

Oh, people are arguing about exactly that. We're even in a subthread which is all about the number 500!

You don’t get it. This is to show how ridiculous 500 people claim is.

Now, who has a rocket that can kill hundreds of humans

As far as I know, all evidence points to a palestinian device, including the small blast radius.

And the claim that "hundreds of humans" were killed is most probably fake news.


I'm not interested to go into further rabbit holes. This cannot be resolved in debate anyways. Future investigations might reveal what happened, we cannot do that here.

[–] blitzkrieg@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Alright, this thread is arguing about how many people were killed. The rest of the world is arguing about who did it.

But the western media and the president of the US are saying Hamas did it.

This is the president of the same country that lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to invade them, and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians(In Iraq alone). And their response years later was "Sorry, my bad".

What makes you think they won't lie about this? Or anything else?