this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2023
2295 points (97.6% liked)

Technology

59651 readers
2642 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] steltek@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A public good? Like roads, firefighters, etc? You want the government to pay for your Youtube Premium subscription?

Less snarky, if you're arguing that Youtube has earned a special legal status, a natural consequence is that Google gets to play by a different rulebook from all other competitors. That's quite a dangerous direction to take.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your snark was actually closer to the mark than you think.

Let's say YouTube vanished overnight, what would the impact be? Sarcasm might suggest "we'd all be more productive" but let's take a deeper look.

  1. A lot of free courses (or parts thereof) would vanish. (A key resource for poorer learners)

  2. Most modern tech repair guides would be gone (no machine breakdowns, no guides on fixing errors on old hardware)

  3. A lot of people's voices would be silenced (YouTube is an awful platform, but for some people it's one of the only ones they have)

Seems to me, it would do a lot of public harm. Probably more harm than removing a freeway or closing a fire station.

As for letting Google "play by a different rulebook", it does so already. The OP has indicated that they're undertaking an action in an illegal way, and yet no-one much cares to stop them. Yes, they could do the same thing via legal channels, but that's rather like suggesting there is no difference between threats of violence vs taking someone to court when trying to collect money.

Would you grant an insurance company similar legal indemnity? How would you feel about your local barber peeking in your window and selling what they see? Google has long played by a different rulebook, and thus different expectations are held.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your arguments would only work if you'd argue for breaking up or nationalizing YouTube.

As long as they are a for-profit company you can't deny them the right to legally earn money the way they see fit, doesn't matter how big they are or what other revenue streams they have. Forcing them to offer a service for free is nonsense, and attacking them on a technicality that is probably easily circumvented is just a waste of everybody's time and money imo.

If we really want to do something about this then we have to break their monopoly, same as any other huge company that's f*cking with consumers.