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[–] Cranakis@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The simple obvious answer is that there is no God. If there is, I want no part of an afterlife with him.

"God is so moral that he doesn't need earthly morals" is an absolutely laughable justification. May God strike me dead before I click the "reply" button, if I'm wrong.

[–] Knightfox@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey, that's chill. I'm not trying to appeal to people to change their opinions on whether there is a god or not. I'm simply arguing that if what is said about god is true, then taking the moral high ground because you're the better being doesn't really mean anything.

"Hey what did you do that landed you up in eternal pain and suffering?"

"Oh, I'm just morally superior to the being that put me here."

The same goes for religious people blaming the bad things in their life on anything other than the same all powerful being.

[–] Cranakis@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The religious blame the bad things on Satan, not God. Pretty convenient. God gets all of the credit an none of the blame. It's delusional.

Also, what rational argument suggests there is eternal pain and suffering? Some old Mediterranean folk lore twisted through time, with more Faust and Inferno (Dante) than scripture in the current belief? I don't see any reason to rationally believe there is eternal pain and suffering.

[–] Knightfox@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

IDK, I was going for the more extreme groups of religious groups. In some religious beliefs your belief in god has less effect on your post death outcome. Maybe in those you become a cat rather than burn in eternal pain for not believing in xyz god.

In high school I wrote a paper about the dichotomy of religious beliefs portrayed in Beowulf. My paper was about how the embracing of a new religion was personified by the acts of good being attributed to god, but the acts of evil were attributed to the non-biblical and villainous entities being portrayed by pagan representations. Essentially, as new cultures adopted Christianity they had a core issue in assigning blame to god for the ills in their lives so they were instead assigned it to something else that was still familiar (another cultural belief). This lead to a short period in which these peoples earnestly believed in both religious pantheons.