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[–] Knightfox@lemmy.one 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

To be fair the children's story came first. In that regard Tolkien and Rowling had something in common, their first books were written for a much younger and simpler audience. It wasn't until they took off commercially that the more adult and deep lore was developed.

EDIT: I'm wrong

[–] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? No. First was the story of Arda in a prototype version of the Silmarillon and Unfinished Tales.

[–] Knightfox@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Huh, interesting, I didn't realize Tolkien had started writing portions of the Silmarillion in 1914. I had to do some looking based on your response and learned something.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I know, he never really wrote "for" the silmsrillion either. He wrote stories for him to flesh out the history of the world but not with the intention of publishing such stories. Some of them were even just notes about what happened in the world and some weren't finished.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong

[–] Two9A@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to the Tolkien Professor (during his YouTube streams on the History of Middle Earth series) there was always the intent to publish the Quenta Silmarillion (the central tale of the Silmarils) as a First-Age story of the Elves, but it kept getting revised and rewritten and never reached a publishable form.

Until Tolkien's son wanted to complete that piece of the legacy, and found multiple (sometimes contradictory) sets of notes and mostly-finished stories, and Editorial Decisions had to be made.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Until Tolkien's son needed more cash ...

FTFY

[–] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'd need to look up the dates, but he might've started creating the languages even earlier than that

[–] debil@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Upvote because somebody online admitted they were wrong.

[–] TechieDamien@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Still a little ambiguous...

/s