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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, its quite obvious to everyone that has no power in the world.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With how often we, the United States, shove our fingers into every whisper of a conflict I'm shocked that we're not only involved in this conflict (by proxy, not for reals, take that international courts) but somehow ended up on the wrong side of it. It's like it wasn't enough to just be helpless, we had to add a whole extra layer.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s really weird when considering the Ukraine situation. For a moment I thought US was just doing the right thing. Nope, they just are anti Russian, not necessarily pro Ukraine.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Use the opportunity to take this lesson to heart: the vast majority of governments only choose their geopolitical behavior depending on their own self-interest. The cases where countries sacrifice anything remotely significant for the sake of taking ethical decisions are rare and few. They will only change this attitude if the general public demands it to the point of them risking losing power.

[–] WiLiV@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Moral righteousness has never been a consideration, militarily speaking.

[–] kd637_mi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah this is what a lot of people have been saying for a while. It is a meaningful difference.

[–] Saxoboneless@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Worth repeating that when American evangelical Christians support Israel, it's because of they think it will bring about the literal end of the world, and to them that is a good thing. I assume that's not Biden's angle, but it's certainly the angle of a significant portion of Republicans.